alanf
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Post by alanf on Dec 28, 2022 17:39:33 GMT -5
I am in search of a rear sight blade for my Model 14, one in which the notch is a little wider and a little deeper to accommodate eyes that are not what they use to be. Any recommendations?
Thank you.
Alan
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wpeel
.30 Stingray
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Post by wpeel on Dec 30, 2022 8:33:04 GMT -5
I would enjoy finding the same thing. I have a Model 15 and a Model 19 that would benefit. If I find a source, I'll post. A friend of mine recommended carefully using a Swiss file to open up the rear notch to .140" (I think) and that helped his eyes/sight picture quite a bit.
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wpeel
.30 Stingray
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Post by wpeel on Dec 30, 2022 8:38:10 GMT -5
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markwell
.30 Stingray
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Post by markwell on Dec 30, 2022 9:52:34 GMT -5
The file treatment works just fine. Touch up with cold blue when finished and you are good to go.
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Post by ezekiel38 on Dec 30, 2022 12:46:13 GMT -5
Agree with Markwell and wpeel. Go slowly and carefully, a stroke here, observe, then a stroke there. Clean up and touch up with cold blue.
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wpeel
.30 Stingray
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Post by wpeel on Dec 30, 2022 13:29:31 GMT -5
This may be an ignorant question to the initiated, but here goes:
Are you filing the sight blade while it is still resident in the sight assembly while mounted on the revolver? I've spoken with someone that has done this both ways...and he was of the opinion that removing the sight blade and filing it while clamped in a vise, broke more blades than when he secured the gun and filed them while mounted.
Opinion? Real life experiences?
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markwell
.30 Stingray
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Post by markwell on Jan 1, 2023 10:48:39 GMT -5
I have opened a fair # of rear sight blade notches over the years and never took the rear sight off of the gun. BTW, masking or blue painter's tape is your friend for protecting the parts of the gun NOT being filed from errant file slip-ups. Go slow and you'll be fine. Filing one side or the other of the notch can also correct an off-center sight blade.
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wpeel
.30 Stingray
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Post by wpeel on Jan 1, 2023 21:03:37 GMT -5
I have opened a fair # of rear sight blade notches over the years and never took the rear sight off of the gun. BTW, masking or blue painter's tape is your friend for protecting the parts of the gun NOT being filed from errant file slip-ups. Go slow and you'll be fine. Filing one side or the other of the notch can also correct an off-center sight blade. Thank you for your reply. I assume that you're also using a safe edge file? |
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markwell
.30 Stingray
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Post by markwell on Jan 2, 2023 9:53:59 GMT -5
Yep, I have an old "points file" that I made a safe edge years ago.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 2, 2023 10:34:19 GMT -5
This may be an ignorant question to the initiated, but here goes: Are you filing the sight blade while it is still resident in the sight assembly while mounted on the revolver? I've spoken with someone that has done this both ways...and he was of the opinion that removing the sight blade and filing it while clamped in a vise, broke more blades than when he secured the gun and filed them while mounted. Opinion? Real life experiences? ***** wpeel.... your question is right on, far from “ignorant.” Remove the rear sight slide to file on it? Bullroar! When properly assembled, the great S&W post-war rear sight exhibits distinct, repeatable adjustments. The WINDAGE SCREW is held by a round nut, which is staked. When these were disassembled at the factory, the screw & nut were replaced. Staking of the detent in the screw to secure the nut requires a light touch----not a job for Gorilla Monsoon. To disassemble & reassemble the sight slide you want correct tools, parts, and skill. Note: windage adjustment on incorrectly assembled S&W rear sight will be either loose or too tight. If you must widen the notch (I wouldn’t), by all means use two layers of masking tape to protect the revolver and to keep filings out of the works. Even with this protection, don’t touch file to frame! A small mill bastard with one edge ground smooth accomplishes two things: 1) cut intended surface only, 2) maintain square corner. Question: are original rear sights and parts available from S&W? David Bradshaw |
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Post by seminolewind on Jan 2, 2023 10:46:30 GMT -5
[quote author=" bradshaw" Question: are original rear sights and parts available from S&W? David Bradshaw [/quote] David, I recently got a new, complete rear sight assembly from S&W to replace the rear sight on a model 69. |
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 2, 2023 11:29:57 GMT -5
[quote author=" bradshaw" Question: are original rear sights and parts available from S&W? David Bradshaw David, I recently got a new, complete rear sight assembly from S&W to replace the rear sight on a model 69.[/quote] ***** Seminolewind.... thanks. Believe the M-69 leaf has a radius on front. Suspect it is made ny MIM process. The old leaf is square across front. The K-frame leaf is shorter than N-frame leaf, with respective hole locations. (The J-frame adjustable sight is smaller----with coarser adjustments----than the K-frame leaf. David Bradshaw |
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wpeel
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Post by wpeel on Jan 2, 2023 12:21:32 GMT -5
I don't see any aftermarket vendors that are carrying the old style sight assembly. I see a few vendors that have used stock...but I can't trust them to always be there. Maybe I haven't researched enough...but I'm starting to get the feeling that trying to widen the notch is "not the best idea." If I wear 2x reading glasses, my sight issues greatly improve...but I can't be wearing them full time.
Any recommendations?
I see that D&L Sports make a dandy rear sight that is non-adjustable. However, I don't think it's available for the older style sight set up.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 2, 2023 15:30:03 GMT -5
I don't see any aftermarket vendors that are carrying the old style sight assembly. I see a few vendors that have used stock...but I can't trust them to always be there. Maybe I haven't researched enough...but I'm starting to get the feeling that trying to widen the notch is "not the best idea." If I wear 2x reading glasses, my sight issues greatly improve...but I can't be wearing them full time. Any recommendations?I see that D&L Sports make a dandy rear sight that is non-adjustable. However, I don't think it's available for the older style sight set up. ***** wpeel.... “Any recommendations?” Ditch the reading glasses. Visit the optometrist for an eye exam. If you can’t bring a handgun, bring a substitute that allows you to mimic FOCUS on FRONT SIGHT. To measure your vision at focus. Reading glasses have no depth of focus. I’ve seen wild shooting by shooters in reading glasses. Downrange distortion puts it between a headache and the fun house. Focal planes, in order or importance1) Front sight. 2) Rear sight. 3) Target. David Bradshaw |
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 4, 2023 7:29:32 GMT -5
Numrich has a lot of bits and pieces for the S&W sight, Brownell's too. Order extras of the little bitty parts. Putting a S&W back together I better understood the differences in the dang things. You'll see not only the round and square fronts but the front hole will be spaced different too.
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