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Post by bradshaw on Dec 12, 2022 11:17:30 GMT -5
Looking for sone info from all the knowledge here. I’ve come across a shooter grade second year production three screw flattop in .357 locally. I’ve always loved the look of the lil gun conversions I’ve seen in John taffin books and the ones here. This gun would most likely be converted if I got it. What’s a good price for it? The seller is asking 850 or has a few trade interests. thanks guys ***** Firearms jargon inclines to common understanding. The term “3 screw” commonly designates a Smith & Wesson revolver with sideplate held by three screws. Thus, to this shooter, “Second year production three screw” refers to S&W, not Sturm, Ruger. Lingo works when the reference is broadly understood. It’s o.k. for a word to have multiple meanings when the audience understands them. For several reasons I’ll never call an old model Ruger a “3 screw.” Enthusiasts coined the term “old model”----never capitalized----soon after Bill Ruger introduced his New Model single action with PASSIVE SAFETY, transfer bar lockwork. Even the Rugers took to calling their single actions with Colt SAA-type action the “old model.” It’s not accurate on any level to call an old model Ruger a “3 screw”, since the 5 gripframe screws plus 1 ejector housing screw make it a “9 screw" Ruger. To top it off, the New Model uses pins iwithout threads. “3 screw” makes sense when applied to S&W, as it was preceded in production by “5 screw,” and then “4 screw” variants. However, not even Ruger could leave well enough alone. Everyone knows New Model designates transfer bar lockwork. Ruger re-introduced a slightly smaller Blackhawk, calling it “New Model” a completely different usage. Try explaining that to a new shooter. Doubt anyone called Ruger’s first adjustable sight single actions “Flattop.” Once Ruger incorporated “ears” in the topstrap to protect the rear sight, folks coined the term “Flattop” to indicate the original design. (Unlike “new model," David Bradshaw
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Post by simple45 on Dec 12, 2022 11:39:34 GMT -5
obviously I won’t even debate the terminology. plainly put its an early Ruger blackhawk .357 made in 1956. Bradshaw you said it perfectly with the statement that only to those who know would three screw and Ruger in the same sentence make sense. I really do appreciate all the wisdom on this forum.
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Post by bradshaw on Dec 12, 2022 12:47:47 GMT -5
simple45.... thank you for the kind words. As you have seen, there are others here with knowledge in the collecting and archival dimension.
In my view, a really good example of Ruger single action with Peacemaker-type lockwork is to be enjoyed as is. For daily rough & tumble, and for a custom, A Ruger New Model offers specific advantages. First, the New Model may be carried all-up, each chamber loaded. releasing the trigger also drops the transfer bar from between hammer and firing pin. This is what makes it a PASSIVE SAFETY----the fire-prevention mechanism engages automatically, not manually. There is no way to make the Colt Peacemaker or an old model Ruger drop-safe with a round under the hammer. (And, so far, I have not handled another single action mechanism which I will carry hammer-down on a loaded chamber. Bill Ruger’s New Model achieved parity with the modern double action.)
My joy in an old model delivers in its original form. David Bradshaw
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Post by contender on Dec 12, 2022 22:07:15 GMT -5
David is correct in his distinctions of "3-screw, 4-screw & 5-screw." However,, to many of the Ruger folks,, who focus on Rugers & pay little attention to the S&W line,, the term "3-screw" is an OFTEN used description to distinguish an OM vs the NM. The NM went to the 2 pin design, and lots of folks took to calling the Rugers "s-screws!" Don't feel bad about using that terminology. I'm very guilty of it as well. So much so,, that when discussing guns with others,, I will clarify things to make sure the people know if I'm discussing a Ruger or a S&W! (Unless they already know what I'm discussing.
Either way,, Good old Ruger SA handguns are sweet guns to enjoy!
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