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Post by Encore64 on Dec 8, 2022 15:30:36 GMT -5
My favorite feature of this gun is the front sight. Makes me have evil thoughts of what could be done with a Uberti Thunderer/Lightning...
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Post by campfire on Dec 8, 2022 18:02:45 GMT -5
I like most everything about this save for two things...I'm not sure about the bead blasted finish for one. And the way the grip frame comes kind-of straight back from the cylinder frame and then has a steep turn donw the backstrap. A more gradual radius would look a bit nicer to my eye, but alas these are both minor personal preferences. My favorite part of this is the radius on the bottom of the grip frame...super nice!
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Post by RDW on Dec 8, 2022 19:39:51 GMT -5
I like most everything about this save for two things...I'm not sure about the bead blasted finish for one. And the way the grip frame comes kind-of straight back from the cylinder frame and then has a steep turn donw the backstrap. A more gradual radius would look a bit nicer to my eye, but alas these are both minor personal preferences. My favorite part of this is the radius on the bottom of the grip frame...super nice!
Keep em coming fellas. This is how its done. Critique and praise is how we come up with a better mouse trap. i love it. IM SHOOTIN FOR RATS! Big ones. We have to start somewhere and then there is the problem of acquiring a large enough quantity of the doner Rugers to build something on. The angle of the frame to grip frame was picked because of the variations in height and angle. Myself and Bobby as well as Dusty Hooley looked these over really good before we got started. We wanted them to be identical. A whole pile of jigs and workholding devices were constructed to be able to machine the frame. The lightening of the recoil sheilds, the rear sight is my favorite part. It is like looking into a light defusing trough or pocket. it really makes the front blade stand out.The next batch of them (RUGERS) may have a different angle. we will see. The front sight was a vision of Bobbys and it took a lot of work to bug out how to manufacture it but we got it. There is more to it than you can see. The slot in the base is .102" thou wide. in the bottom below it is a locking set screw that is 5-40. You drift the site in to where it shoots straight and then you remove the .100" wide blade stick your allen wrench thru the slot and then lock it down so it is permanent. Then tighten the blade back in and your set. It works great. The sight blade is held in on both sides with a 5-40 set screw. Bobbys case color is just exquisite. You have to see it to apreciate what he has gone thru to get it down and he has it down PAT. As i stated earlier we have to start somewhere and try things out of the box and then listen and learn from all of you for advise and vision for the next batch. And there will be many more to come. Working with Bobby Tyler is the most pleasurable experience i could possibly dream up. The Man is An Awsome Stud of the first order. And let me tell you about a Young Man who is the epitome of the phrase Go Getter. Dusty Hooley. He learns at an astronomical rate and is one hell of a craftsman. I have had so much fun with this project. Do not hesitate to critique or point out likes and dislikes. I have skin like an Alligator, and i need to know what turns you on and what does not. So does Bobby T. I will say this about this little 45. It feels like a charm and shoots very well. the balance, the weight, and the overall packability are all pluses and Docs Holster is just bad to the Bone. R PS: Bobbys vision of the Keith 5 with the radiused bottom and the Bisley trigger guard is just bitchin to hold. Everyone that has grabbed it has loved it, Especially me.
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pleadthe2nd
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Post by pleadthe2nd on Dec 8, 2022 20:41:12 GMT -5
Would a choice of grip material be out of the question, I would like to see it with some Turkish walnut , or rosewood panels with a nice satin finish.
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Post by needsmostuff on Dec 9, 2022 0:19:07 GMT -5
As nice as it is there are lots of 45Colts out there. Just to play devil's advocate 45AR or Schofield would sure make it special.
P.S. Never did like the way a bead blast finish picks up rubs and scratches.
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 9, 2022 6:15:39 GMT -5
As much as I enjoy such calibers, I don't believe we'll see any Limited Runs in Handloader Only Calibers.
Keep in mind, these are modified Rugers. I assume they use factory cylinders, barrels, etc.
The 45 Auto Rim could be done if the base gun was chambered in 45 ACP. Just add the Rim Recesses and done.
On this gun, I'd change a few things.
1) Bevel around the rear sight mods to eliminate the frayed look on the serration ends. 2) Trim Pivot Pins flat with frame and mill the ends to look like screw heads. 3) Use wood grips to give each gun it's own unique personality.
Personally, I'm glad to see these projects. With the retirement of several top custom smiths, there's a deficit of custom revolvers. This bridges the gap and eliminates some of the wait.
That being said, the cost is higher than a FA97. So, time will tell.
As Ronnie said, it's all about learning...
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450ak
.30 Stingray
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Post by 450ak on Dec 9, 2022 8:17:35 GMT -5
Add a rear sight leaf(?) similar to what Dustin Linebaugh does.
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sj6g
.30 Stingray
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Post by sj6g on Dec 9, 2022 10:15:35 GMT -5
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Post by needsmostuff on Dec 9, 2022 10:52:09 GMT -5
The 45 Auto Rim could be done if the base gun was chambered in 45 ACP. Just add the Rim Recesses and done. Thats what I was thinking. When you order the block of base guns, just specify a 45ACP cylinder. There are just not enough ACP/AR guns in the world to go around.
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 9, 2022 11:11:49 GMT -5
The 45 Auto Rim could be done if the base gun was chambered in 45 ACP. Just add the Rim Recesses and done. Thats what I was thinking. When you order the block of base guns, just specify a 45ACP cylinder. There are just not enough ACP/AR guns in the world to go around. The 45 Auto Rim is just another underestimated cartridges. A victim of most people just not understanding. With the events of the 451 Detonics, 45 Super and 460 Rowland, we've been educated on what these small rounds are capable of. But, hysteria always gets in the way. Folks tend not to understand the beefed up cases are not so necessary in a revolver. The 45 AR Case is plenty strong. Fermin and I have been plotting a Dedicated 45 AR Thread. Work just keeps getting in the way. Short answer is I completely agree with you. Converting the cylinder to 45 AR does not hamper shooting 45 ACP. I don't understand why more manufacturers don't do this...
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Post by RDW on Dec 9, 2022 11:29:01 GMT -5
Fabulous!!!! First, the ceracote flat black in the rear was going to happen but this site picture works so well in any light condition we opted to go without it. I think you will really like it. Second, the leaf was the first plan but i wanted to try this out, and Huey the sides where the trough lines (Light Defusers), where they enter will be beveled. Great idea. The pins ofcourse will match the sides, we just had to get something together so we could get it out there and get the show on the road. Third, The FA 97 is ofcourse the cadillac of em all. But cost wise is one thing. something we looked at was the added cost of recessed crown + Action job + Non standard barrel length + one peice dovetail (non replaceable) front site blade +. ETC, ETC. This front site was designed for ease of manufacturing and to be very install happy. And to also have the option of varying the front site height. You Know it adds up and the fact that they FA97s) are way backlogged doesnt help. Like i said we had to start somewhere. Forth, grip panel choice is always an option but the concept here was to make a packer, beat it up and shoot revlover in a very freindly caliber with some wallap. Bob Baker suggested the type and brand of micarta and we definately trust his judgement. I garranty a nice walnut would be great and it could easily be had. Fifth, SJ6G,,,,, I love it. What a beautiful peice by Bowen. we are allready working on several hammer concepts just like this. for some of the next runs as well as my shelf available to you shortly. here are a couple of examples. R Concept models standard plow handle in Blue and Bisley style backstrap fat back hammer in red. And clements design comander fast lockup lightweight. These are old models but the new model version will be available as well.
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sj6g
.30 Stingray
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Post by sj6g on Dec 9, 2022 11:43:56 GMT -5
Look at those! I'm going to spend a whole weekend installing ring hammers when they're ready.
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Post by RDW on Dec 9, 2022 12:10:07 GMT -5
Look at those! I'm going to spend a whole weekend installing ring hammers when they're ready. In the hole of the ring, what do you think buddy? Beveled or rounded?
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sj6g
.30 Stingray
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Post by sj6g on Dec 9, 2022 12:19:56 GMT -5
I am partial to beveled, I use the Harrison 1911 hammers often.
That said, I'm not so picky I wouldn't take either one.
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 9, 2022 12:23:25 GMT -5
Hammers are fabulous!!!
Just had a long and informative chat with Ronnie. These guns will just get better and better with feedback.
I don't know Bobby Tyler, but Ronnie sure isn't afraid to step outside the box and do things for shooters instead of conforming to commercial benefit only.
It's just a matter of figuring out what people want. With the machining ability, imagination and safety are the only limits...
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