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Post by boolitdesigner on Oct 10, 2022 14:58:10 GMT -5
….I shoot thousands of that particular load per year and am quite comfortable hitting within 50 yards… There’s your answer right there. Don’t expect a bang-flop but if you put that slug where it should go, any deer will deflate PDQ and probably leave a “Ray Charles” blood trail. Take a nice corn fed big deer (and ours are large healthy deer) and put two 44 Mag Keith semi wadcutters thru it's heart and have it take up long distance travel (found a week later when it got warm enough to smell it over 400 yards away... yep, I autopsied it and pulled out the blown up heart with the two holes and inch apart in it)...NO BLOOD trail because that fat deer had it's fat plug the holes in both sides and its in a large bushy area full of oak leaves giving no ground trail either. Duplicate that with a heavily loaded 45 Colt with the Keith semi-wadcutter with the same results. Not everything works just the way you think it should....... The point is, break the deer down so it can't run off to be unfound if you going to shoot it with solid bullets.................. |
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Post by starmetal47 on Oct 10, 2022 16:34:58 GMT -5
I had a wheelweight RCBS 255 SWC water dropped loaded in my Winchester 45 COLT Trapper loaded to near 1600 fps and shot a button buck at a distance of 30 yards through the heart broadside shot. At the shot he just jerked, did a 180 and I couldn't find him. There was a dime blood spot where he was standing and that was it. My two German Shepherds couldn't find him. I found him the next days bloated as it was warm. I did expanding circles from the spot he was standing and found him over 300 yards away in a revine. That was it for me and the 45 SWC.
Bootletdesigner has been handguning deer for at many many years as his state of resident doesn't allow rifles. He's been preaching to me for hears out the 357 mag, 41 mag, 44 mag, 45acp, and 45 Colt the two worse for dropping deer with SWC's were the 44 mag and 45 Colt. I believe him. He has also designed some newer 45 hollow point (different nose profile then the excellent SWC hollow points) and they perform like a Nosler partition. The do a lot of damage expanding upon first entering the deer, shed their mushroom pedels, and continue along their way exiting with the remaing core which is still of substanial weight. That's what I recommended if you're going to use the 45 Colt for whitetail deer hunting. I know many are against hollow points, but these are a different animal all together from what was available in the past.
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Post by starmetal47 on Oct 10, 2022 16:40:18 GMT -5
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Post by bushog on Oct 10, 2022 18:44:24 GMT -5
That Ruger only bullet is too long for many revolvers. Made for large frame Ruger .45s. OPs -revolver should be fine. |
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Post by boolitdesigner on Oct 10, 2022 18:49:02 GMT -5
Most of these custom designs come from people who want a certain thing. I think you all need to ask the guy who wanted that long nose..... I think you know him, what'ya think 2 Dogs.
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Post by edk on Oct 10, 2022 19:34:14 GMT -5
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Post by sixshot on Oct 10, 2022 21:38:34 GMT -5
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Post by bushog on Oct 10, 2022 22:04:45 GMT -5
I Love this place!
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Post by pws on Oct 11, 2022 0:08:26 GMT -5
Perhaps what I should have said is that too many people pay too much attention on what their equipment can do and not enough attention on what they can do.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 11, 2022 1:19:56 GMT -5
Most of these custom designs come from people who want a certain thing. I think you all need to ask the guy who wanted that long nose..... I think you know him, what'ya think 2 Dogs. I’m pretty sure I was the guy who put forth the idea of the Ruger only 45 caliber bullets and IIRC they were like a 285 grain HP cast slug. These left fist sized exit wounds with an ample blood trail and our little S. Texas whitetail deer didn’t go too far after they were hit with such. |
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 11, 2022 1:25:03 GMT -5
Most of these custom designs come from people who want a certain thing. I think you all need to ask the guy who wanted that long nose..... I think you know him, what'ya think 2 Dogs. I’m pretty sure I was the guy who put forth the idea of the Ruger only 45 caliber bullets and IIRC they were like a 285 grain HP cast slug. These left fist sized exit wounds with an ample blood trail and our little S. Texas whitetail deer didn’t go too far after they were hit with such. I might also mention these days I shoot the least hard bullet my barrel will tolerate. I like savage expansion with precision placement and I don’t deny being a dick about it. My phone number is all over the internet and I’m happy to explain to you my thoughts. I should mention that my deer, my terrain, my hunting conditions are far different than my dear friend Bob and thankfully for us he is willing to listen and design bullets for our individual needs. |
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Post by alukban on Oct 11, 2022 7:51:03 GMT -5
About 900 fps from 9gr of Unique + 255gr SWC from a Lee mold (air dropped to be about 12-13 BHN) This was a rear quarter shot through the liver and one lung from a couple of years ago. It was only about 25y away and went maybe 15y in a semi-circle before dropping.  |
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Post by boolitdesigner on Oct 11, 2022 9:22:13 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure I was the guy who put forth the idea of the Ruger only 45 caliber bullets You were... and IIRC they were like a 285 grain HP cast slug. The large HP was 300 gr. and the solid was 332 gr. These left fist sized exit wounds with an ample blood trail and our little S. Texas whitetail deer didn’t go too far after they were hit with such. You need to see what they do in a rifle, specifically the 45 Raptor at 2,200 fps. You can drop a golfball thru the entire hole all the way thru the animal. Oh, they move, but it's straight down.I might also mention these days I shoot the least hard bullet my barrel will tolerate. Don't you just love it when people get it right. I like savage expansion with precision placement Again. you got it going good. and I don’t deny being a dick about it. My phone number is all over the internet and I’m happy to explain to you my thoughts. I should mention that my deer, my terrain, my hunting conditions are far different than my dear friend Bob and thankfully for us he is willing to listen and design bullets for our individual needs. These folks that refer to someone's tracking abilities really need to try it here.... you can't see tracks or where you have just walked.... no sign of it at all. Try it guys and see for yourself. Myself, I prefer the animal to go straight down or just tip over. My HP designs allow for that when loaded properly and that is all that needs to be said. |
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Post by Fowler on Oct 11, 2022 10:16:48 GMT -5
About 900 fps from 9gr of Unique + 255gr SWC from a Lee mold (air dropped to be about 12-13 BHN) This was a rear quarter shot through the liver and one lung from a couple of years ago. It was only about 25y away and went maybe 15y in a semi-circle before dropping. Oh I likie that gun and sight combo... |
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Post by starmetal47 on Oct 11, 2022 10:40:56 GMT -5
About 900 fps from 9gr of Unique + 255gr SWC from a Lee mold (air dropped to be about 12-13 BHN) This was a rear quarter shot through the liver and one lung from a couple of years ago. It was only about 25y away and went maybe 15y in a semi-circle before dropping. Oh I likie that gun and sight combo... That's been my 45 Colt load for decades!!! Have a 4 5/8 inch Old Model Blackhawk and that is about the velocity I get from it. With my 8 3/8 inch Smith 25 I get around a 1000 fps. |
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