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Post by starmetal47 on Nov 2, 2022 10:28:55 GMT -5
Let me assure you the Luger is up to the task in strength. I use to corresspond with a fellow in Germany that lived, breathed, and built Lugers. He once told me a neat conversion to chamber a Luger for the 38 Super. I asked about the magazine. He said think about it, it's so angled the Supers fit the magazine perfect. I dragged mine out and sure enough it fit them well.
No I wouldn't ream a 9mm Luger barrel out with a 38 Super reamer as the back end of the 9mm is much fatter. Guess it would work, but the best way is a new 38 Super barrel.
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Post by leadhound on Nov 2, 2022 11:26:52 GMT -5
Let me assure you the Luger is up to the task in strength. I use to corresspond with a fellow in Germany that lived, breathed, and built Lugers. He once told me a neat conversion to chamber a Luger for the 38 Super. I asked about the magazine. He said think about it, it's so angled the Supers fit the magazine perfect. I dragged mine out and sure enough it fit them well. No I wouldn't ream a 9mm Luger barrel out with a 38 Super reamer as the back end of the 9mm is much fatter. Guess it would work, but the best way is a new 38 Super barrel. This reminds me about the 45's that were made for the military trials, and then "The Luger Guy or Man" I believe is what he went by, started converting some to 45 and even 10mm? I still think the 30 Luger is another old cartridge that could be revisited with modern powders and platforms.
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Post by starmetal47 on Nov 2, 2022 12:05:07 GMT -5
Let me assure you the Luger is up to the task in strength. I use to corresspond with a fellow in Germany that lived, breathed, and built Lugers. He once told me a neat conversion to chamber a Luger for the 38 Super. I asked about the magazine. He said think about it, it's so angled the Supers fit the magazine perfect. I dragged mine out and sure enough it fit them well. No I wouldn't ream a 9mm Luger barrel out with a 38 Super reamer as the back end of the 9mm is much fatter. Guess it would work, but the best way is a new 38 Super barrel. This reminds me about the 45's that were made for the military trials, and then "The Luger Guy or Man" I believe is what he went by, started converting some to 45 and even 10mm? I still think the 30 Luger is another old cartridge that could be revisited with modern powders and platforms. Let me remind you that those 45acp and 10mm Lugers are built on larger frames, thus a tad stronger. My one good friend lives a few miles from "Lugerman". He has some interesting stories. His 45's are very expensive. I've visited the 30 Luger with modern powders. It's a fantastic round. I think it bites on the heals of the 7.62x25 Tokarev, maybe even equals it in higher pressure loadings. I put a six inch NOS 30 Luger barrel on one of my Lugers. I developed a load with HP-38 and a 100 grain TC cast bullet and got it safely up to 1600 fps. Move over 30 Super, you have nothing on the 30 Luger except your diameter is smaller. I'll take the horsepower of the 30 Luger over that!
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 2, 2022 18:00:36 GMT -5
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Post by x101airborne on Nov 3, 2022 6:57:57 GMT -5
I got to hold one once. The toggle link action has always fascinated me for some reason. I have never found one for sale in my price range though. Thank you all for the discussion and the pictures.
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Post by parallaxbill on Nov 3, 2022 7:26:06 GMT -5
As retired machinist I really appreciate the design and quality of a Luger. I'll take mine apart now and then just to marvel at the work they were doing well over 100 years ago.
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Post by leadhound on Nov 3, 2022 10:22:21 GMT -5
As retired machinist I really appreciate the design and quality of a Luger. I'll take mine apart now and then just to marvel at the work they were doing well over 100 years ago. I only wish I was a retired machinist, made a decent hand 20 years ago in school, and a short stint in a manufacturing facility on CNC’s everything was set up on jigs and fixtures. But I have an interest in it still and marvel at the accomplishments. Can’t pick up a gun without looking for tool marks and paths, trying to see how they did it. Some seem simple or at least I know how I would do it, but there are a lot of them that I just can’t figure out?! LOL! I sometimes wonder with the change of machines and processes how many techniques have we lost or forgotten? And how many are the same from 100 years ago?
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Post by parallaxbill on Nov 6, 2022 7:15:32 GMT -5
Most of the methods I used in the first 2/3rds of my career were old school. I even learned how to design parts and make drawings long before CAD came along. Most of the younger engineers I worked with in the 10 years before I retired would design some of the most complicated and inefficient prototypes that you could imagine. Because with CAD they could create it so quickly but without regard for those of us that had to machine those "fancy" prototypes or our outside production vendors which kept prices prohibitively high. Part of my job was to help them design parts that would work, be reliable and not be too costly to manufacture.
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