bamagreg
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Post by bamagreg on Feb 6, 2022 19:34:13 GMT -5
I had a problem with the RCBS expander dies using cut down S&W brass. The case wall gets thicker closer to the base and the expander would get tight and cause a wrinkle in the brass. I took a cutoff wheel and shortened the expander plug by .200” and the problem went away. Others have solved the problem by using a 50AE expander plug.
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 6, 2022 21:37:17 GMT -5
Or you could get Lee Martin to make you an inside case reamer. It will also allow you to use heavier than 440gr bullets. It still won't be a Linebaugh, but should be able to load up to @515gr. There's a post on here somewhere about it if my old memory serves.
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 6, 2022 21:48:15 GMT -5
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Post by bombero590 on Nov 23, 2022 21:48:48 GMT -5
I had a problem with the RCBS expander dies using cut down S&W brass. The case wall gets thicker closer to the base and the expander would get tight and cause a wrinkle in the brass. I took a cutoff wheel and shortened the expander plug by .200” and the problem went away. Others have solved the problem by using a 50AE expander plug. would this issue occur as well with factory brass from Buffalo Bore?
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bamagreg
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Woodstock, GA
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Post by bamagreg on Nov 23, 2022 21:53:59 GMT -5
I had a problem with the RCBS expander dies using cut down S&W brass. The case wall gets thicker closer to the base and the expander would get tight and cause a wrinkle in the brass. I took a cutoff wheel and shortened the expander plug by .200” and the problem went away. Others have solved the problem by using a 50AE expander plug. would this issue occur as well with factory brass from Buffalo Bore? No the factory JRH brass does not have that issue
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Post by bombero590 on Nov 25, 2022 9:57:40 GMT -5
so with those dies i would not need the 50AE expander for the factory 500JRH brass.....awesome
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Post by lar4570 on Nov 26, 2022 11:04:05 GMT -5
I have used cut down 500S&W and factory JRH brass with the Hornady dies without any problem
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Post by mark500 on Dec 10, 2022 10:56:16 GMT -5
I use the Redding Profile crimp 500 S&W cut short by a machine shop. Makes a very nice crimp for heavy loads.
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tex500
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Post by tex500 on Dec 10, 2022 11:15:19 GMT -5
I had a problem with the RCBS expander dies using cut down S&W brass. The case wall gets thicker closer to the base and the expander would get tight and cause a wrinkle in the brass. I took a cutoff wheel and shortened the expander plug by .200” and the problem went away. Others have solved the problem by using a 50AE expander plug. As far as the expander die is concerned, If you BUY a RCBS die set, call RCBS, and ask them to send you a 500 AE expander die, and they will send it for free. But again this is not needed with the Buffalo Bore brass and it should not be needed with the NEW 500 JRH Brass that will be coming out. But I have no idea when that will be. Given the present situation of things.
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tex500
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Post by tex500 on Dec 10, 2022 11:20:50 GMT -5
475Kid I've only used the Hornady crimp die and I don't have any problems with the bullets jumping the crimp. The Hornady dies came with a taper crimp and roll crimp die. I have no idea why they would send a taper crimp die. So it just sits in the box waiting for it's turn to never come. I only went with the Hornady dies because RCBS was sold out at the time. Most of my standard caliber dies are RCBS. Oh, and I seat and crimp in separate steps with the same die. I guess I should get another crimp die, so I won't have to keep adjusting the seating stem. Most of what I shoot now out of my JRH is the Lee 440 @ 1250fps, but I have run them up to 1400 just for fun. The taper crimp die is for those who want to use a 500 AE bullet and the Hawk Bullet is much better served up with the taper crimp also. The hawk bullets can get deformed with a heavy roll crimp. I never saw the need or had a desire for a 500 AE bullet. But there are those who like to go light and shall we say plink and play?
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Post by Thunderjet on Dec 10, 2022 11:23:40 GMT -5
I find it interesting that half inch diameter dies are in short supply. Not unusual. They don’t sell as many compared to more popular calibers so they make limited production runs Amazon has both the RCBS carbide and Hornady dies in stock as I type this
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tex500
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Post by tex500 on Dec 10, 2022 11:31:56 GMT -5
I have the Hornady Dies and have had zero problems with them. A good heavy roll crimp is needed for heavy loads. I shoot only cast bullets in mine and cast my own. The Lee 440 is a good bullet for everything. I used to have a 400gn mold and shot many hundreds of them. I tried a custom 500gn mold, but the shank was too long and bulged the sides of the case just enough that it wouldn't chamber. I think a 480gn cast bullet would be about the max that will fit. I think Hornady has a 500gn jacketed bullet for the 500 S&@, but I don't know if it's too long. Anybody try it in the 500 JRH? Oh, and we'll need pics of your new BFR I believe that Bigbore5 answered this one. Yes you would need to ream the case even with a 500gr cast bullet. Those larger bullets were meant for the 500 S&W. Not against going heavy for the caliber but the JRH was not meant for bigger payloads. It was designed for a milder loaded load. Some of the jacketed bullets are not designed to open up at lower velocities. Jack Huntington preferred the 400gr cast bullet. Jim Tertin who designed the BFR shoots a 400 gr cast bullet in His BFR. Max found the 440gr cast to be quite accurate. But I will not stand in the way of anyone who wants to experiment or play with different bullets and load combinations. Less Boring. I encourage to all who want to come up with a new combo. Jacketed or cast.
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Post by bombero590 on Dec 28, 2023 10:37:52 GMT -5
RCBS PN: 23808 500 S&W / 500 Special As far as who has them in stock, I'll leave that up to you. But, these have the crimp in the right place... So if I plan to use 500JRH brass these dies should be good to go? No issues with case buckling? Are these better than carbide or same except for having to lube shells? What shell holder should I use? Thanks again new to the 500JRH club...
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Post by bigbrowndog on Dec 28, 2023 11:06:10 GMT -5
Bombero, you’ve resurrected a post from over a year ago, don’t know if you noticed that or not, so info on here may not be the latest and greatest. The RCBS dies you mention should work just fine, I had two sets but sold one and I had no issues with them. However I never used bullets heavier than 400gr. so case buckling may be an issue. It will depend on some variables like, bullet length choice, case choice, actual bullet diameter, etc.
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 28, 2023 11:26:13 GMT -5
RCBS PN: 23808 500 S&W / 500 Special As far as who has them in stock, I'll leave that up to you. But, these have the crimp in the right place... So if I plan to use 500JRH brass these dies should be good to go? No issues with case buckling? Are these better than carbide or same except for having to lube shells? What shell holder should I use? Thanks again new to the 500JRH club... You'd have to try really hard to "Buckle" a 500 JRH Case. The problem, as Bigbrowndog eluded to, is "Bulging" if you use heavy bullets that seat too deep. The thickening case walls of the trimmed 500 S&W can be a problem. Also, to reiterate the above post, bullets up to 400 grn have been no problem for me...
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