scotth
.30 Stingray
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Post by scotth on Dec 4, 2021 15:55:58 GMT -5
Figure both have more to post as projects progress.
i am still waiting on scope rings shipping notice says it should be here monday so thats good news. i got a email notice late last week from berrys bullets they had some of the 123gr. 7.62x39 bullets available so i ordered 1000 to try in the 327. they have not pulled the money out for it yet and nothing is pending so i dont know if i will see them anytime soon. but my main focus is to work on a small game load and see if i can find a load that will shoot the same sight as a 100gr. american eagle or other max loading so i can use 1 scope. the rings i ordered is the leupold quick change so if need be i can swap scopes from small game to med/large game if i choose.
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 4, 2021 15:58:47 GMT -5
I've got the 25-20 and 327 Federal going like I want them.
MGM says 4-6 Weeks on the 30: Reece Barrel. Got the scope, rings and base in.
Guess we're all waiting on something...
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jeffh
.375 Atomic
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Post by jeffh on Dec 4, 2021 18:29:49 GMT -5
Hey, all versions matter!!! ... LOL! Thanks, Huey.
Just keeping myself in check. The excitement that others are this involved in this stuff could carry me away.  |
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 4, 2021 19:09:14 GMT -5
The book that arrived today has already proven interesting.
It seems the original Rook Cartridges started as revolver cartridges just as we're doing today.
The 380 Long and 360 #5 both use the same case. Interesting that even today reloadable cases can be made from 38 Special. The 380 Long used a heeled bullet same diameter as the case and the 360 #5 used a more traditional bullet as we load today. Today, the old reliable 38 Special would be a perfect Modern Rook Cartridge.
The overwhelming majority of the originals were chambered in 30/32 and 25 Calibers. Their reasoning, similar to ours, is better trajectory and retained energy.
History tends to repeat itself and a good idea never really goes away.
The 380 Long and 360 #5 suffered from rainbow trajectories and low ballistic coefficients. I believe with modern components we could overcome that. But, recoil and noise levels would come into play.
Highly recommend this book, but they are insanely expensive. I watched eBay until someone slipped and sold one fairly cheap. A couple more books on my radar, but will have to be purchased in a similar fashion...
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 6, 2021 11:16:33 GMT -5
Did some looking this morning. No reason a little 300 Blackout wouldn't suffice for the economy minded.
Traditions and CVA both build the 300 Blackout in small Single Shot Rifles. The first weighs 6.3 lbs and the second 5.8 lbs.
As several have pointed out, rimless isn't a deal breaker and both these are generally available under $400 here.
These would most certainly double as deer guns too.
Hard to see a downside for the Handloader...
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Post by medicdave on Dec 6, 2021 11:57:26 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong but 300BO rimmed could be made from 357 brass and would just need a 357 rim recess cut and appropriate extractor if a man wanted a rimmed version.
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 6, 2021 12:00:20 GMT -5
It would be short, but would work. EABCO offers the 300R Blackout. It's made from 360 Dan Wesson Brass necked down and trimmed to length.
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Post by medicdave on Dec 6, 2021 12:04:58 GMT -5
Excellent info.
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 6, 2021 16:05:42 GMT -5
My LGS has some Traditions 300 Blackouts coming. Think I'll grab one just to see how it works. I suspect it'll be a winner.
Can't loose on the purchase. Got a five year old Grandson who'll get it passed on to him in a few years.
At least I can work up some Rook and Small Game Data for it.
These come with Lothar-Walther Barrels, so should be great with cast bullets.
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jeffh
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Post by jeffh on Dec 6, 2021 17:58:00 GMT -5
My LGS has some Traditions 300 Blackouts coming. Think I'll grab one just to see how it works. I suspect it'll be a winner. Can't loose on the purchase. Got a five year old Grandson who'll get it passed on to him in a few years. At least I can work up some Rook and Small Game Data for it. These come with Lothar-Walther Barrels, so should be great with cast bullets. The little AAC/H&R Handi I had was a lot of fun, both working up loads and shooting. All cast bullets and Unique or HP38/W231. These had a slender, tapered barrel and the fit/finish was way nice for a Handi. Defunct now.
EDIT: Just looked the Traditions rifles up - neat little rifle!
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 6, 2021 18:02:27 GMT -5
My thoughts on this is the variety of guns available for the 300 Blackout. The little bolt action Ruger American is under 6 lbs. Be pretty fun for those who want a Repeater Rook Rifle...
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Post by tdbarton on Dec 6, 2021 20:01:58 GMT -5
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 6, 2021 20:06:48 GMT -5
Thanks Tim...
The caption is pretty small on the picture. The jest of the pictures is a 38 Special on the left. The case is trimmed very little to make reloadable cases for the 360 #5 Rook.
Not enough difference to matter. A small frame 38 Special would be an ideal Modern Rook Rifle. The TC Contender Carbine would easily handle the 35k 38-44 HD Loads.
There's truly nothing new under The Sun...
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Post by tdbarton on Dec 7, 2021 15:46:19 GMT -5
Huey’s Uberti Baby Rolling Block in .357 Mag:   |
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 7, 2021 15:52:43 GMT -5
Thanks Again Tim...
Gun is a factory Uberti Baby Rolling Block. Has a 26" Octagon Barrel and shoots 38 Special just as well as 357 Magnum.
The scope base started life as a Contender Barrel Scope Base. Dave Higginbotham of Lone Star Rolling Blocks milled it flat on the bottom and mounted it on the octagon barrel.
Scope is a late model Weaver K2.5x. It just fit the theme of the rifle.
The whole (scoped) package weighs 6 lbs 4 oz.
I gave $260 for this rifle at a gun show years ago. My dad tried to talk me out of it because it was too much money. My how things have changed...
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