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Post by wildbill on Sept 22, 2021 20:26:32 GMT -5
Very tasteful gun...............including the grips........
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Post by leadhound on Sept 22, 2021 21:06:59 GMT -5
I always forget about wall to wall cylinders until I see someone else’s! Filling that frame up just looks right/finished. She’s a sweet one with them honey grips!
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 22, 2021 21:16:17 GMT -5
The great strength of these guns built in five shots is the bore axis. The center of the chambers are closer to the center of the cylinder on the Midframe Guns.
This leaves more steel in the outside cylinder wall.
I won't claim this gun will ever surpass the 44 Magnum. But, it'll match it with less pressure and more nostalgia. Plus, IT'S HYPHENATED!!!
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Post by bushog on Sept 22, 2021 22:49:41 GMT -5
Ive actually been really seriously considering a .44 magnum on a midframe flat top bisley Would have chosen different sights and i really don’t prefer the hammer being in the white. Thats all…little things. BTW mine are going to get blued tomorrow…getting close. Hope Zane gets my grips here…
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 23, 2021 4:49:57 GMT -5
Greg, all good points and as you already said it the accumulation of little details that make a custom personal. I look forward to reading about yours. Hopefully, you'll have them soon!!!
I've made no bones about my love of the old hyphenated cartridges and resurrecting their usefulness. This one will certainly match the 44 Magnum in power. Some of the old loads surpassed the 44 Magnum. So, I built a gun to handle those loads.
I cannot find any knowledge of a five shot custom 44-40 being built. I hesitate to call this the first, but it just might be.
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Post by powderkernel on Sept 23, 2021 10:54:07 GMT -5
Finer n frogs hair! Cant wait to hear about how it shoots.
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 23, 2021 11:06:01 GMT -5
Kyle, you won't have to wait long. Been at the bench this morning. Just sent Tim a group to post. Gun shooting around 1"...
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Post by tdbarton on Sept 23, 2021 11:08:03 GMT -5
Huey wasting no time making us all jealous:
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 23, 2021 11:40:24 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that...
No reason for anybody to be jealous. I've seen lots of fine revolvers posted on here. Most either have customs or will have customs.
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Post by mike454 on Sept 23, 2021 12:31:31 GMT -5
Great little gun! look forward to hearing about your loads.
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Post by Lee Martin on Sept 24, 2021 7:48:43 GMT -5
Gorgeous gun. The .44-40 has more case capacity than the Magnum (it may surprise folks how much more). I'm eager to see what sort of speeds you can hit with it. Dad and I both built .44-40 cylinders for our Super Blackhawks. Neither of us pushed the round hard though. But contrary to popular belief, the brass holds up just fine; thin necks and all. We did the conversions in the 90's and used Remington hulls. I'm sure my first lot went 25+ reloads. Starline is even better. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time"
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Post by reflex264 on Sept 24, 2021 10:33:03 GMT -5
gorgeous!
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 24, 2021 10:59:15 GMT -5
Gorgeous gun. The .44-40 has more case capacity than the Magnum (it may surprise folks how much more). I'm eager to see what sort of speeds you can hit with it. Dad and I both built .44-40 cylinders for our Super Blackhawks. Neither of us pushed the round hard though. But contrary to popular belief, the brass holds up just fine; thin necks and all. We did the conversions in the 90's and used Remington hulls. I'm sure my first lot went 25+ reloads. Starline is even better. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" Thanks Lee... I've found the same with 38-40 and 44-40 Cases holding up just fine. I've got a SBH 44-40 that Clements built me. Loaded to an estimated 30k, it matches the 44 Magnum velocity. That voluminous case and slight bottleneck really boosts velocity.
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Post by jayhawker on Sept 24, 2021 13:23:05 GMT -5
Prior to .454 the .44-40 had the greatest case capacity of handgun cartridges. When first starting in Fast Draw in the early 1960s I built a Great Western SA. Bought a used Colt cylinder which was supposed to be .45 Colt but was actually .44-40. So I used a GW .44 Mag barrel. When loading black powder blanks for breaking 4 inch balloons at 8 feet, one would pack all the 1F black in the case as possible. Everyone wanted to know what I was shooting as my .44-40 blanks were obviously hotter than the .45 Colt blanks.
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Post by bryanaustin on Oct 4, 2021 12:20:30 GMT -5
Gorgeous gun. The .44-40 has more case capacity than the Magnum (it may surprise folks how much more). I'm eager to see what sort of speeds you can hit with it. Dad and I both built .44-40 cylinders for our Super Blackhawks. Neither of us pushed the round hard though. But contrary to popular belief, the brass holds up just fine; thin necks and all. We did the conversions in the 90's and used Remington hulls. I'm sure my first lot went 25+ reloads. Starline is even better. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" I am glad to see this revolver and the stance that the 44-40 is a fine cartridge. I have pushed the cartridge myself. My hottest loads were with 12gr of Unique (simulated 6gr double charge) and a 200gr lead bullet that clocked in at 21,786psi (nearly if not past 30,000cup) with my test barrel. One weakness many seem to forget is not necessarily the overall cylinder wall thickness, but the thickness at the cylinder lock detent.
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