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Aug 3, 2021 19:36:59 GMT -5
Post by squawberryman on Aug 3, 2021 19:36:59 GMT -5
Why has no one here that's got more calibers than fingers ever put anything here about one?
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Post by jrmiller on Aug 3, 2021 21:26:13 GMT -5
I’ve got the 460v performance center and 2 - 500 performance center revolvers. 10.5 & 7.5 inch. They are wicked awesome. But to be completely honest the “cartoon magnums” are too heavy for any practical use beside tree stand or ground blind hunting with a sling system.
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Post by 45MAN on Aug 4, 2021 6:29:22 GMT -5
I’ve got the 460v performance center and 2 - 500 performance center revolvers. 10.5 & 7.5 inch. They are wicked awesome. But to be completely honest the “cartoon magnums” are too heavy for any practical use beside tree stand or ground blind hunting with a sling system. I HAVE A COUPLE OF S&W PERFORMANCE CENTER 460's, A 10.5 AND A 7.5, BUT IT HAS BEEN YEARS SINCE I USED EITHER. TOO BIG, TOO HEAVY, NO "SOUL", LACK OF CONVENTIONAL BULLET (AND HEAVIER WEIGHT) FACTORY AMMO, .....
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Aug 4, 2021 10:33:14 GMT -5
Post by potatojudge on Aug 4, 2021 10:33:14 GMT -5
Rowland? I have 45 Colts for that I guess.
The 625 is the only gun I'd consider making a 460, and it's not that I don't have more powerful DAs but that the moon clips are nice.
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Aug 4, 2021 10:43:33 GMT -5
Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 4, 2021 10:43:33 GMT -5
My good buddy has a BFR in 460 S&W... I'm not a huge fan of the super long cylinder revolvers... though I shot company 500 S&W's in the X frame every year at the local shooters round up... my longest cylinder gun was a Dan Wesson 357 Maximum... at least until I finally bought a revolver in 45-70, which I've wanted as a companion gun, for one of several 45-70 rifles I have, for a long, long time now... mine is an early NOS BFR in 45-70... having shot both my buddies 460 & my 45-70 in the same 10" barrel configuration, I don't see a whole lot of difference... maybe the 460 is just a little snappier...
one of the professed advantages of the 460 ( or several other lonnng cartridges ) is that you can shoot shorter cartridges in them... but admit, as a reloader I'd prefer to down load with Trailboss, or other suitable powder, the longer cases the guns are chambered for, rather than shoot full power 454's & burn carbon rings into the middle of a chamber like the 460...
if I was not so heavily invested in 45-70 I could see myself with a 460... but would be more likely to just go up to the 500 S&W, rather than stop at the 460...
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Aug 4, 2021 11:10:49 GMT -5
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Post by Big Bore on Aug 4, 2021 11:10:49 GMT -5
I've been down the 460 path with two different guns. Smith standard 8.4" and Smith PC 10.5". Both were disturbingly accurate with 250 Barnes XPBs, but anything heavier and accuracy suffered for some reason. Also, the velocity on 300 grain Aframes out of the 8.4" wasn't where I thought it should be. The cylinder gap on the DA really played a huge part I believe. My 8" BFR .454 gets within 100 FPS of where the Smith 8.4" was with the 300 Aframe.
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Aug 4, 2021 12:32:41 GMT -5
Post by bamagreg on Aug 4, 2021 12:32:41 GMT -5
I recently traded into an 8-3/8" 460. It's a hoot to shoot. So far I've only shot 240 gr XTP's. It is very accurate. Shook the scope mount screws loose and I have not got around to re-mounting with loc-tite. Going to switch from the 2X scope to a 2-7x and start over.
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Aug 4, 2021 16:06:21 GMT -5
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Post by buckelliott on Aug 4, 2021 16:06:21 GMT -5
All that extra bulk and weight, just to brag it beats the .454 by a measly 100 fps -- in some loads...? No thanks. I'm getting too old to play such childish games.. Reminds me of an old Ross Seyfried comment, regarding "pursuit of the .45 SWIFT.."
There might be a place for the .4600, using bullets of 3455 grains+, but I see no practical advantage to it.
Maybe I'm not the mountain goat I once was, but it seems these hills get just a little higher and steeper, every time I have to buy a new calendar, and I see no future in adding more gravitation-attraction to the mix.
The old "just because" rationalization just never carried that much water, in my world...
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Aug 4, 2021 16:46:58 GMT -5
Post by boatswainsmate on Aug 4, 2021 16:46:58 GMT -5
I have one if I ever decide to hunt in dangerous territory.
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Post by RDW on Aug 4, 2021 17:20:15 GMT -5
I've been down the 460 path with two different guns. Smith standard 8.4" and Smith PC 10.5". Both were disturbingly accurate with 250 Barnes XPBs, but anything heavier and accuracy suffered for some reason. Also, the velocity on 300 grain Aframes out of the 8.4" wasn't where I thought it should be. The cylinder gap on the DA really played a huge part I believe. My 8" BFR .454 gets within 100 FPS of where the Smith 8.4" was with the 300 Aframe. Randym. I found the same problem with the 460. It does not care for heavier bullets. 260 grain down it is accurate and fast as hell out of the 8 inch smith. But my 45 maximum version was built in 2010 with a 1.6 inch case ( shortened 460 cases) and i can put 60 foot a second on top of the smith with 300 Xtps and almost a hundred with 295 cast gas checks. 1 in 20 twist douglass, 2 thou cyl gap and a butt load of 1680. All with an 8 inch barrel and less case capacity. I believe there is a limit on case length and certain powders. To much volume for efficiency. I have found that H110 and 296 hate anything longer that 1.4 in 475 and .510. The pressure spike on the 460 with H110 is absolutely Stupid and i believe very dangerous. None of the smith 460s i chrono graphed got even remotely close to the advertised speeds with the heavier bullets. If it wasnt for the smith X being such a Gorrilla sized revolver we would see alot of mishaps. 445 on up seem to really dig 1680 on all of my maximum Ruger frame projects. How much cylinder gap did you have? Just curious> R
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Post by RDW on Aug 4, 2021 17:25:07 GMT -5
I have one if I ever decide to hunt in dangerous territory. Hell Boatswain You could leave the bullet out of that thing and just torch a hole in the target. Hahaha. woohoo. That is one bad lookin mambo ja hamba man!
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Aug 4, 2021 18:29:08 GMT -5
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Post by lar4570 on Aug 4, 2021 18:29:08 GMT -5
My friend keeps trying to talk me into a 460, but I already have a 45-70 BFR. I do have a BFR in 45/454/410 that I've been thinking about maybe getting a 460 cylinder for. But...
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Aug 4, 2021 21:34:49 GMT -5
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Aug 5, 2021 5:09:14 GMT -5
Post by Big Bore on Aug 5, 2021 5:09:14 GMT -5
I've been down the 460 path with two different guns. Smith standard 8.4" and Smith PC 10.5". Both were disturbingly accurate with 250 Barnes XPBs, but anything heavier and accuracy suffered for some reason. Also, the velocity on 300 grain Aframes out of the 8.4" wasn't where I thought it should be. The cylinder gap on the DA really played a huge part I believe. My 8" BFR .454 gets within 100 FPS of where the Smith 8.4" was with the 300 Aframe. Randym. I found the same problem with the 460. It does not care for heavier bullets. 260 grain down it is accurate and fast as hell out of the 8 inch smith. But my 45 maximum version was built in 2010 with a 1.6 inch case ( shortened 460 cases) and i can put 60 foot a second on top of the smith with 300 Xtps and almost a hundred with 295 cast gas checks. 1 in 20 twist douglass, 2 thou cyl gap and a butt load of 1680. All with an 8 inch barrel and less case capacity. I believe there is a limit on case length and certain powders. To much volume for efficiency. I have found that H110 and 296 hate anything longer that 1.4 in 475 and .510. The pressure spike on the 460 with H110 is absolutely Stupid and i believe very dangerous. None of the smith 460s i chrono graphed got even remotely close to the advertised speeds with the heavier bullets. If it wasnt for the smith X being such a Gorrilla sized revolver we would see alot of mishaps. 445 on up seem to really dig 1680 on all of my maximum Ruger frame projects. How much cylinder gap did you have? Just curious> R I honestly can’t remember specifically but I do remember it wasn’t as bad as others had reported. I’ve heard some saying as much as .09. I think my 8.4 was something like .045. Sounds like our results were very similar. I got faster speeds than what they claimed on the factory 200 hornady the gun was built around. But once the bullet weight climbed, speed seemed to fall of disproportionately. It was a fun gun quite honestly. Recoil was docile in my opinion, being that it was such a huge caliber. Overall weight and a braked barrel did a lot. Ultimately I sold it though. I found I could accomplish the same goals with a smaller footprint and lighter weight platform. And I’m getting 1709 out of my bfr 454 with 300 grain aframes. Literally nothing in the US I couldn’t hunt with this set up.
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Dec 29, 2021 15:09:16 GMT -5
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Post by wvhunter460 on Dec 29, 2021 15:09:16 GMT -5
Randym. I found the same problem with the 460. It does not care for heavier bullets. 260 grain down it is accurate and fast as hell out of the 8 inch smith. But my 45 maximum version was built in 2010 with a 1.6 inch case ( shortened 460 cases) and i can put 60 foot a second on top of the smith with 300 Xtps and almost a hundred with 295 cast gas checks. 1 in 20 twist douglass, 2 thou cyl gap and a butt load of 1680. All with an 8 inch barrel and less case capacity. I believe there is a limit on case length and certain powders. To much volume for efficiency. I have found that H110 and 296 hate anything longer that 1.4 in 475 and .510. The pressure spike on the 460 with H110 is absolutely Stupid and i believe very dangerous. None of the smith 460s i chrono graphed got even remotely close to the advertised speeds with the heavier bullets. If it wasnt for the smith X being such a Gorrilla sized revolver we would see alot of mishaps. 445 on up seem to really dig 1680 on all of my maximum Ruger frame projects. How much cylinder gap did you have? Just curious> R I honestly can’t remember specifically but I do remember it wasn’t as bad as others had reported. I’ve heard some saying as much as .09. I think my 8.4 was something like .045. Sounds like our results were very similar. I got faster speeds than what they claimed on the factory 200 hornady the gun was built around. But once the bullet weight climbed, speed seemed to fall of disproportionately. It was a fun gun quite honestly. Recoil was docile in my opinion, being that it was such a huge caliber. Overall weight and a braked barrel did a lot. Ultimately I sold it though. I found I could accomplish the same goals with a smaller footprint and lighter weight platform. And I’m getting 1709 out of my bfr 454 with 300 grain aframes. Literally nothing in the US I couldn’t hunt with this set up. Okay so I am gonna throw this out there. I had a raging Bull 454 and killed several deer with it but it lacked IMO long range capability of 150 to 200 yards. I sold it and got a Encore 460 S&W . With that barrel I was able to shoot 454. At reasonable distance and also shoot the 200 grain 460 loads . What it did for me was give me versatility as I hunted. Couldn't count the times a deer was let go simply because I figured I couldn't reach out to it. I certainly am not as experienced as most of you all just saying that's what it did for me . But I ultimately missed the quicker second shot accusation of the revolver. Having to crack open that encore to install another round if it was need was a futile effort really even though it often wasn't needed . So Now I bought a BFR 460 and I love it . Action is so stinking smooth and I don't have to take my eyes off the target. I of course still have the 460 barrel it's still in great shape and rifling is excellent to good to let go. On to new and sorta old adventures for me.
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