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Post by bearskinner on Apr 19, 2021 7:31:22 GMT -5
I know size wise, the diameters are the same, and the Lee crimp die should work just fine. Does anyone use the L dies to load 50AK? Any issues?
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Post by Lee Martin on Apr 19, 2021 8:42:35 GMT -5
You'll need .50 Alaskan dies to load that round. The .500 Linebaughs won't work (except as you noted, they can be used to crimp). And by won't work, they're just to short. The Alaskan is 0.70" longer. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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Post by potatojudge on Apr 19, 2021 10:03:02 GMT -5
I used 500L dies to load some 50 AK, but it was new brass that I didn't resize- I just flared the case mouth and seated/crimped. IIRC even then it was a janky process.
50 AK dies, as Lee said, are in order.
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Post by bearskinner on Apr 19, 2021 10:10:46 GMT -5
I figured as much, just hard to find anything in these times, and I have a couple sets of 500 L dies. The search begins
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Apr 19, 2021 22:23:45 GMT -5
Random question: Can you load the Linebaugh with .50 Alaskan dies? Im guessing not.
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Post by Ramar on Apr 20, 2021 7:35:43 GMT -5
Not contesting what Lee and Potatojudge said, just trying to understand. The only issue I can imagine with the "short" Linebaugh dies is the possibility you can't size to the bottom of the case. But as long as the partially-sized cases plunk into your chamber, wouldn't everything that follows (expanding/seating/crimping) work?
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Post by bearskinner on Apr 20, 2021 10:20:53 GMT -5
Depending on the chamber if the new 50AK, I think the 500L dies might work for quite a few loading, but I just found a set of 50 AK dies, so my shell plates are the same, and crimp is the same. I was trying to do it on the cheap, but that’s not always the correct response. At least I cast 4 different bullets in .510 so I can save money there and gave some options.
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Post by Fowler on Apr 20, 2021 10:31:59 GMT -5
I may have missed it somewhere but what rifle did you get in 50AK? I have never handled or shot one, the only chance I had to do so was a buddies 1895 Marlin that was loaded way stout (525gr cast at 1950ish) and I had a pounding headache at the time and decided to pass. I get a chance to shoot one one of these days...
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Post by bearskinner on Apr 20, 2021 12:13:13 GMT -5
It’s a WWG conversion on a Pistol Grip SS Marlin 1895. One of their Kevlar stocks with a deceleration pad, and all the WWG goodies from their package guns. I will load a plethora of 50AK loads to try, plus shoot ( single load) some 500L and 500 Max from time to time.
I know a 450 at 1650 will kill anything that walks, especially with a solid. No use shooting 2000FPS loads on a daily basis
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Post by Fowler on Apr 20, 2021 14:04:14 GMT -5
It’s a WWG conversion on a Pistol Grip SS Marlin 1895. One of their Kevlar stocks with a deceleration pad, and all the WWG goodies from their package guns. I will load a plethora of 50AK loads to try, plus shoot ( single load) some 500L and 500 Max from time to time. I know a 450 at 1650 will kill anything that walks, especially with a solid. No use shooting 2000FPS loads on a daily basis Yup totally agree, I run a 350gr LFN in my Marlin 45/70 at 1650fps and seldom think I need more. Doesnt mean I would want to try one though, I have a 465gr LFNGC mold that would be the cats meow for a 50AK I think, Its a dandy in a 500BE double gun... |
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Post by mgrau on Aug 21, 2021 21:54:38 GMT -5
Hate to disagree with the consensus but I have frequently reloaded for my 50AK rifle using 500 Linebaugh dies. My Linebaugh dies are the special order carbide dies (larger thread) and because they are carbide, they are much easier to use than the Hornady Custom 50 Alaskan die set that I didn't buy until I saw one on sale several years after I got the 50AK rifle. Maybe something is different because of the larger dies? The only issue I can see is if you would hit the threaded portion that holds the depriming assembly before the pin knocked out the primer with the resizing die. Otherwise, you just have to set the dies higher in the press - assuming they are still sufficiently threaded in to hold and maintain alignment... Or maybe my set is an anomaly.
I find that when I change out the thread adapter in my RCBS Rockchucker for these dies, I just go ahead and resize all fired brass on hand for 500 Linebaugh, 500 Max, and 50 Alaskan.
Just my experience.
Mat
Oh yeah,
Linebaugh Bisley 500 Linebaugh
Reeder Ultimate Encore 500 Max
Nonneman 50 Alaskan built on a pre-safety Marlin 30-30
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Post by bearskinner on Aug 21, 2021 22:22:02 GMT -5
As my main reloading machine is a converted Dillon 450 to a 550, it has the removable tool heads. I have one set up with 50 Alaskan, and one with 500LINEBAUGH. I use the same crimp die in a single stage press.
20” Marlin 1895/ 50 Alaskan-WWG conversion
16.5” Marlin 1895/ 500LINEBAUGH possibly the only one John built.
3- SS Bisley Blackhawk, 500L Reeder Customs
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Post by foxtrapper on Aug 22, 2021 7:02:08 GMT -5
Hope you have a good stash of lead for all those .510’s! Lol I have a mountain mold ,375 gc bullet sized to .510 that my Marlin 50ak and reeder .510 gnr just love!
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Post by bearskinner on Aug 22, 2021 10:40:37 GMT -5
I have 5 different .510 molds. I had to get a 350 grain GC made a few years ago, when they were no longer available from CP bullets.
350, 420, 440, 500, 525 grainers. They eat lots of lead. You get 14 bullets PER POUND……..
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Post by mgrau on Aug 23, 2021 14:31:30 GMT -5
Yep, 437.5 grains = 1 ounce = 16 bullets per pound. They add up quickly.
Mat
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