dhd
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Post by dhd on Sept 1, 2020 16:31:36 GMT -5
Does the cylinder pin latch into the frame as it supposed to? I understand that it jumps out, but I'm asking if it clicks in. I had an issue with the notch on the pin not being deep enough and that allowed the pin to jump as you are describing. I used a round file and deepened the notch a little at a time until the spring loaded latch would seat as deep with pin in as it did with the pin out. Not sure if I'm explaining this where it can be easily understood or not.
Anyway, the pin I actually filed was the Belt Mountain pin, not the Ruger pin. They both did the jump thing. Similar to you, after the Ruger pin would jump, I purchased a Belt Mountain locking pin to fix the issue. It didn't. Maybe my latch was fat and my pin notches were skinny, I don't know or care really as deepening the notch on the pin fixed it henceforth...
The gun is a SS 4 5/8" Super Blackhawk and the recoil is fierce with full loads. If a cylinder pin is gonna jump out, it'll probably be on a heavy recoiling sob.
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Post by leadhound on Sept 1, 2020 16:40:50 GMT -5
Does the cylinder pin latch into the frame as it supposed to? I understand that it jumps out, but I'm asking if it clicks in. I had an issue with the notch on the pin not being deep enough and that allowed the pin to jump as you are describing. I used a round file and deepened the notch a little at a time until the spring loaded latch would seat as deep with pin in as it did with the pin out. Not sure if I'm explaining this where it can he easily understood or not. Anyway, the pin I actually filed was the Belt Mountain pin, not the Ruger pin. They both did the jump thing. Similar to you, after the Ruger pin would jump, I purchased a Belt Mountain locking pin to fix the issue. It didn't. Maybe my latch was fat and my pin notches were skinny, I don't know or care really as deepening the notch on the pin fixed it henceforth... The gun is a SS 4 5/8" Super Blackhawk and the recoil is fierce with full loads. Had one do this, notch was closer to the head end, swapped with another pin and on we went. Cant blame em, they put out a good product for mass production.
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Post by magpouch on Sept 2, 2020 5:57:58 GMT -5
One revolver (Single Seven) I own had the same problem. On that revolver the depth of the counterbore that the pin latch sits in was too shallow. When the base pin was installed it didn't lock because the lock could not move far enough. A simple fix to drill it .020 or .030 deeper. You might check to see if you slowly install the base pin, does the lock actually move into the pins notch enough?
If this is the issue, drilling is not hard, but if you are not handy sending it back is an easy answer.
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dhd
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Post by dhd on Sept 2, 2020 9:28:39 GMT -5
One revolver (Single Seven) I own had the same problem. On that revolver the depth of the counterbore that the pin latch sits in was too shallow. When the base pin was installed it didn't lock because the lock could not move far enough. A simple fix to drill it .020 or .030 deeper. You might check to see if you slowly install the base pin, does the lock actually move into the pins notch enough? If this is the issue, drilling is not hard, but if you are not handy sending it back is an easy answer. I suppose a few similar issues with the pin/lock can happen. This is slightly different than what mine was doing but the outcome is the same, the pin jumps under recoil. I would pull the cylinder pin out and note where the lock sits when it is in "lock" position. You should be able to see if the lock goes as deep into the recess as it's supposed to (compare this to a revolver that does retain the cylinder pin). If it's right, then look at the notch on the cylinder pin. First thing first because if what Magpouch is referenceing is happening, no cylinder pin is going to lock that pin in. What Leadhound described is similar to the issue I had as it related to the pin, not the cylinder pin latch. All of these are related, but different. Such a simple gun that can be quite complicated when it doesn't all work together....
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Post by jfs on Sept 2, 2020 12:22:10 GMT -5
This has turned into a real mess for you......
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tj3006
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Post by tj3006 on Sept 15, 2020 6:00:23 GMT -5
I don,t think the problem is with the Pin itself, as i have used the factory pin and the Belt mountain pin. I will look hard at the latch, i did replace the latch pin with a wolf. But to compare the latch with one that works is good idea thanks ! I plan to solve the problem by having a local smith Dimple the barrel so the set screw goes in the recess. Then the only way for the pin to come out is if it shears off the set screw.But if i can fix the latch too it would be a good idea ! thanks...tj
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