9x23w
.240 Incinerator
Posts: 33
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Post by 9x23w on Mar 31, 2020 20:07:10 GMT -5
Did a search and lots of references saying they are the same powder. (Like H110 and W296).
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Post by whitworth on Mar 31, 2020 21:31:21 GMT -5
The cast bullets don't go to pieces or blow, they just go thru and do what solids always do. I wouldn't be afraid to hunt our deer here with it either. Work up slowly if you're going to use Bullseye!!!!!!! I’ve seen plenty go to pieces on heavy bone. Not a big issue with deer as they aren’t built too heavily especially in the bone department. I think pushing light and fast is a recipe for failure.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Mar 31, 2020 22:11:50 GMT -5
Gotta agree Max, after watching my pronghorn take 3, 465gr. WFN bullets through the lungs and still on it’s feet, I think it’s entirely possible to use too much bullet on medium game., We definitely need to match the bullet to the game and for medium game I’m thinking some expansion is warranted, that said.........going too light can be a recipe for a long sparse blood trail, especially when light is pushed too fast.
Match your bullet to the game you’re after..........Be Goldilocks, not too much and not too little.......JUST RIGHT!!! For me on medium game I feel some expansion is a good thing.
Trapr
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Post by dougader on Mar 31, 2020 22:26:26 GMT -5
I had some older Speer 200 grain "flying ashtray" jhps I used to load up with 16 grains Hercules Blue Dot, standard primers. They ran around 1300 fps. Those bullets had a cannelure so crimping was easy. Speer 14 Ruger Only data shows their 225 gr jhp with the same MAX load of 16 grains BD... listed start load is 14 gains BD. As I recall, CorBon used to load the same bullet in 45 Colt (NOT +P).
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Post by 45MAN on Apr 1, 2020 7:18:46 GMT -5
The cast bullets don't go to pieces or blow, they just go thru and do what solids always do. I wouldn't be afraid to hunt our deer here with it either. Work up slowly if you're going to use Bullseye!!!!!!! I’ve seen plenty go to pieces on heavy bone. Not a big issue with deer as they aren’t built too heavily especially in the bone department. I think pushing light and fast is a recipe for failure. LIGHT CAST BULLETS AT HIGH VELOCITIES, e.g. 1,500fps PLUS, WOULD PERHAPS BE NICE PLINKERS, FUN LOADS, AND MAYBE EVEN WORK GREAT ON SMALL CRITTERS, BUT BASED UPON MY EXPERIENCE, ANY CAST BULLET GOING TOO FAST IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER ON ANY GAME FROM WHITETAILS ON UP. NO WAY ANY CAST BULLET CAN BE EQUATED TO A BARNES BUSTER, LEHIGH MONOLITHICS, PUNCH BULLETS OR NON CAST SOLIDS. IF SLOW ENUFF A CAST BULLET MIGHT GIVE PERFORMANCE SIMILAR TO THOSE OTHER BULLETS. CAST BULLETS MAY BE "SOLIDS" BUT THEY GOT THEIR BULLET INTEGRITY LIMITS.
I SHOOT A LOT OF CAST BULLETS BUT TRY TO KEEP MY LOADS AT 1,300fps AND UNDER. THERE IS A TOPIC ENTITLED "CAST BULLETS: HOW FAST IS TOO FAST" IN THE HANDGUN HUNTING FORUM ON www.handgunhunt.com, WHICH CONTAINS A LOT OF INFO ON THIS VERY SUBJECT.
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Ramar
.30 Stingray
Posts: 439
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Post by Ramar on Apr 1, 2020 7:40:10 GMT -5
Lee's Modern Reloading has a Volume Measure Density page (volume of one grain in cc). It lists: Accurate 4100 - .0690 Ramshot Enforcer - 0.693
Lee's burn rate table has both at 25.
As far as crimping goes, could you crimp over the bullet shoulder, as long as you don't compress the load?
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