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Post by bigbrowndog on Mar 19, 2020 21:07:17 GMT -5
Dick, that was why I mentioned needing experience and mental and physical strength when we shoot the bigger bores,......if you forget for a second it will remind you!!! The bigger guns need soooo much grip tension to control when fired offhand it can be difficult to get a precise shot off.
Trapr
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Post by paul105 on Mar 19, 2020 22:37:21 GMT -5
About 10 yrs ago won an auction for a FA83 .475 Linebaugh. Shot around 15,000 rnd thru that gun. Mostly 370 thru 405 gr bullets over 15.0gr HS6. Would always end range sessions with several cylinders of 420gr WFNGCs over 25 gr H110. One day, after shooting 50 or so 400/15 hs6, I loaded the 420/25 H110 in the FA83 and local showed up. we talked for 10 min or so (gun on bench, half cock, loading gate open). When he left, brain still on 15.0gr of HS6 load, I picked up the 83 and sent one downrange -- it was a 420/25 H110. Result -- goose egged my forehead. Physical and mental strength required! I can no longer handle this gun with 420/25 H110 -- but here are a couple of targets representative of a lot of shooting . Shot over about a month -- get out of the truck, put up target at 50 yds, shoot one round 475 LB (420gr/25.0gr H110) -- . . FWIW, Paul
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Post by rangersedge on Mar 20, 2020 6:20:46 GMT -5
Two big questions pop to my mind. What do you wish to gain over the 44 and how much hiking do you anticipate doing with it? For example; If you're looking for flatter trajectory for longer distances and won'tbe hiking far, an x-frame 460 might be a good choice. If shorter distance and more walking, maybe a 480 or 500 jrh.
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Post by zeus on Mar 20, 2020 7:22:19 GMT -5
Just remember, it only takes a few rounds to instill a flinch and a heck of a long time to get rid of it. 😂 in other words, work up slowly.
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Post by sixshot on Mar 20, 2020 11:36:34 GMT -5
Maybe 10 years ago I watched a hunting video where a well known hand gunner was hunting whitetails with a scoped Encore. He was shooting a big caliber & from a rest he missed a nice buck at less than 40 yds by at least 4 feet! The shot was right at the bucks feet, anytime a shot is off that far, that isn't a miss, that is a very bad flinch. Once you over gun yourself & work yourself into a flinch you've just bought yourself a very big problem.
A wounded animal is still wounded, whether it's with a 44 magnum or a 500 Linebaugh, nothing will ever trump accuracy when hunting. I did it many years ago when shooting handgun silhouette, not from recoil but from trying to get my 5 shots off ahead of the shot clock. Same thing, you put pressure on yourself to make the shot instead of breaking a clean shot & the results can be bad. Even with a single shot getting the 5 shots off was easy to do, I was the one that made it difficult.
Dick
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Post by seminolewind on Mar 20, 2020 13:48:25 GMT -5
I did it many years ago when shooting handgun silhouette, not from recoil but from trying to get my 5 shots off ahead of the shot clock. Same thing, you put pressure on yourself to make the shot instead of breaking a clean shot & the results can be bad. Dick Dick, I developed terrible trigger control while shooting in IPSC competition years ago. It took quite some time and concentration to break the bad habits I taught myself shooting against the clock. I still catch myself rushing the trigger sometimes.
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Post by FlyingScot on Mar 22, 2020 17:12:31 GMT -5
Two big questions pop to my mind. What do you wish to gain over the 44 and how much hiking do you anticipate doing with it? For example; If you're looking for flatter trajectory for longer distances and won'tbe hiking far, an x-frame 460 might be a good choice. If shorter distance and more walking, maybe a 480 or 500 jrh. End of the day, I really just want to have more fun working up loads for the heavies and using them on game when I can. If I had to argue my strict need for something bigger than a .44, I'd really have a hard time doing so. I don't see the need to take advantage of the flat trajectories of the .460 and .454, I doubt I'll be taking any >100 yard shots on game anytime soon. If I were I'd go straight to the .460 X-frame and never look back. Ditto for the .475" calibers, I doubt deer/hogs/auodad would know the difference. But looking at the big stuff is fun! Reading a lot of the online praises (particularly Max's) of the .45c and its potential in a sufficiently strong revolver is what started me really thinking about looking beyond the .44 at all. If I wouldn't sit here and go "well, why not bigger still?" I'd probably have just bought the Bisley Ruger and already be enjoying all the handloading flexibility I could stand!
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Post by FlyingScot on Mar 22, 2020 17:14:55 GMT -5
Just remember, it only takes a few rounds to instill a flinch and a heck of a long time to get rid of it. 😂 in other words, work up slowly. Certainly something I don't want to do!
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Post by seancass on Mar 22, 2020 18:54:22 GMT -5
Also, since you're talking about playing around a lot with handloading, you may want to price components. 500 Linebaugh bullets are pretty expensive!
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Post by whitworth on Mar 22, 2020 19:07:35 GMT -5
Also, since you're talking about playing around a lot with handloading, you may want to price components. 500 Linebaugh bullets are pretty expensive! I’m getting ready to dive back into .500 Linebaugh land. Sorry for the side note.
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Post by seancass on Mar 22, 2020 19:20:49 GMT -5
Also, since you're talking about playing around a lot with handloading, you may want to price components. 500 Linebaugh bullets are pretty expensive! I’m getting ready to dive back into .500 Linebaugh land. Sorry for the side note. So.... You're going to bring us fresh load data with chrono results?
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Post by whitworth on Mar 22, 2020 19:45:44 GMT -5
I’m getting ready to dive back into .500 Linebaugh land. Sorry for the side note. So.... You're going to bring us fresh load data with chrono results? Yup. Let’s just say I’m going to lean on it harder than is considered the norm.
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Post by chaos on Mar 22, 2020 23:52:50 GMT -5
Also, since you're talking about playing around a lot with handloading, you may want to price components. 500 Linebaugh bullets are pretty expensive! I’m getting ready to dive back into .500 Linebaugh land. Sorry for the side note. After several months with the new BFR in .475, I am wanting a 500. Cannot decide on Linebaugh or JRH. Cant seem to find any brass for the JRH. Bullets will be cast with another mould from Accurate, so slugs are a non issue. You boys instilled the sickness in me. Jeeze.
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Post by magman on Mar 23, 2020 4:45:31 GMT -5
Just use cutdown 500 S&W Brass.
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Post by seancass on Mar 23, 2020 12:14:28 GMT -5
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