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Post by tinkerpearce on Nov 23, 2019 2:04:52 GMT -5
Spotted at Pinto's Guns in Renton, WA. Too rich for my blood, but I thought someone might be interested.
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Post by 45MAN on Nov 23, 2019 7:49:53 GMT -5
FANTASTIC PRICES, WONDER IF THEY HAVE THE NEW REPLACEABLE FIRING PIN?
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 23, 2019 8:08:28 GMT -5
Spotted at Pinto's Guns in Renton, WA. Too rich for my blood, but I thought someone might be interested. ***** These certainly warrant a good look-over. 45MAN asks if they have the screw-bushed (user replaceable) firing pin; which would ice the cake. Unless butchery has taken place, these represent a ticket to the world of Freedom Arms manufacturing. Field Grades originally came with the Pachmayr----until that arrangement or supply dried up. The wood grip appears to have been ham-handed with an oversize screwdriver. For what it’s worth, I have swapped both grips on the Model 83, one after the other, printing groups to the same Point of Impact @ 100 yards, offhand. My groups generally running a bit tighter with the Pachmayr. And I definitely prefer Pachmayr as loads approach full house. David Bradshaw
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Post by Big Bore on Nov 23, 2019 8:20:14 GMT -5
I would buy either one right now if they had the bushing. Smoking prices.
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Post by historicfirearms on Nov 23, 2019 8:50:34 GMT -5
Is the removal bushing really that big of a deal? My older 83 doesn't have it but I figured if I ever have problems I will just send it in for the upgrade.
Are these 7.5 inch guns?
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Post by Big Bore on Nov 23, 2019 9:03:05 GMT -5
Is the removal bushing really that big of a deal? My older 83 doesn't have it but I figured if I ever have problems I will just send it in for the upgrade. Are these 7.5 inch guns? It’s a big deal to me. What if the pin broke in the middle of a hunt?
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Post by whitworth on Nov 23, 2019 9:20:23 GMT -5
Is the removal bushing really that big of a deal? My older 83 doesn't have it but I figured if I ever have problems I will just send it in for the upgrade. Are these 7.5 inch guns? It’s a big deal to me. What if the pin broke in the middle of a hunt? My exact sentiments.
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 23, 2019 9:54:14 GMT -5
Is the removal bushing really that big of a deal? My older 83 doesn't have it but I figured if I ever have problems I will just send it in for the upgrade. Are these 7.5 inch guns? It’s a big deal to me. What if the pin broke in the middle of a hunt? ***** randym..... the M83 should not be dry fired. Limited, yes, with strong SNAP CAPS----such as Freedom Arms Snap Caps with springs screwed strong. To dry fire a Freedom Arms, I insert a piece of leather or inner tube into hammer slot in frame. FA hammer fall is stout, and the firing pin must be very hard. In contrast, I have never broken a Ruger firing pin and I’ve dry fired em beaucoup plenty. Other guns, including but not limited to Colt and Smith & Wesson, have broken firing pins. Anytime a Freedom Arms without the screw-bushed firing pin is returned to factory for service, to fit a cylinder, etc., the revolver should be retrofitted for the swap-it-yourself firing pin. If the firing “pin broke in the middle of a hunt,” it would be because you dry fired the revolver un-cushioned. If it broke in the act of firing a round, the round would discharge. Then, the cylinder would hang as you attempted to re-cock, as the broken tip would snag in the fired primer. Jiggling the revolver would free the cylinder to rotate; probable you would not be able to fire the revolver again until changing the firing pin. It is a good idea to have spare firing pins & springs. The old firing pin arrangement is no deterrence to purchase when the price is right. Freedom Arms quality sets the standard for the whole firearms industry. Consider the round count through Freedom Arms revolvers fired in Handgun Silhouette without firing pin breakage on the tournament firing line. Round count greatly exceeds all but a tiny fraction of revolvers used for hunting----those few hunters who just comsume volumes of ammunition when not hunting. I do not think about a Freedom Arms failing afield. Had I dry-fired an uncushioned FA, the thought of pin failure would haunt each step. To hunt on your hind legs with a sixgun is akin to competitive marksmanship----the tiniest distraction dooms performance. David Bradshaw
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Post by bigbrowndog on Nov 23, 2019 11:04:23 GMT -5
Is the removal bushing really that big of a deal? My older 83 doesn't have it but I figured if I ever have problems I will just send it in for the upgrade. Are these 7.5 inch guns? It’s a big deal to me. What if the pin broke in the middle of a hunt? That’s why you buy both of them and carry a back up!!! those are gr3at prices. Trapr
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Post by alukban on Nov 23, 2019 12:21:47 GMT -5
wow! 😮
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Post by jfs on Nov 23, 2019 14:21:50 GMT -5
I have an early 454 that I ordered at the counter from Susie Taylor and sent it back to Freedom for the replacement firing pin bushing... After breaking a pin on a M-83 in 357 at an old YO hunt, 45 man lent me a spare pin that I replaced.. Since then my kit always has a extra pin and driver bit to replace... be prepared...
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Post by jfs on Nov 23, 2019 14:24:11 GMT -5
Those are damm good prices for FA`s 454`s with or without the bushing...
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Post by jfs on Nov 23, 2019 14:26:59 GMT -5
It’s a big deal to me. What if the pin broke in the middle of a hunt? ***** randym..... the M83 should not be dry fired. Limited, yes, with strong SNAP CAPS----such as Freedom Arms Snap Caps with springs screwed strong. To dry fire a Freedom Arms, I insert a piece of leather or inner tube into hammer slot in frame. FA hammer fall is stout, and the firing pin must be very hard. In contrast, I have never broken a Ruger firing pin and I’ve dry fired em beaucoup plenty. Other guns, including but not limited to Colt and Smith & Wesson, have broken firing pins. Anytime a Freedom Arms without the screw-bushed firing pin is returned to factory for service, to fit a cylinder, etc., the revolver should be retrofitted for the swap-it-yourself firing pin. If the firing “pin broke in the middle of a hunt,” it would be because you dry fired the revolver un-cushioned. If it broke in the act of firing a round, the round would discharge. Then, the cylinder would hang as you attempted to re-cock, as the broken tip would snag in the fired primer. Jiggling the revolver would free the cylinder to rotate; probable you would not be able to fire the revolver again until changing the firing pin. It is a good idea to have spare firing pins & springs. The old firing pin arrangement is no deterrence to purchase when the price is right. Freedom Arms quality sets the standard for the whole firearms industry. Consider the round count through Freedom Arms revolvers fired in Handgun Silhouette without firing pin breakage on the tournament firing line. Round count greatly exceeds all but a tiny fraction of revolvers used for hunting----those few hunters who just comsume volumes of ammunition when not hunting. I do not think about a Freedom Arms failing afield. Had I dry-fired an uncushioned FA, the thought of pin failure would haunt each step. To hunt on your hind legs with a sixgun is akin to competitive marksmanship----the tiniest distraction dooms performance. David Bradshaw You sure have a way with words David..... It would have taken me 3 pages to say what you said in 3 paragraphs
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Post by jdpress on Nov 23, 2019 16:29:22 GMT -5
At these prices you could afford to do anything to these two single actions!
J.D. Press
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Post by axman on Nov 23, 2019 17:00:42 GMT -5
Just bought the $800.00 one. Wife said to go ahead on it. The bad thing or maybe good thing is that I bought a 6” Mod 83 454 with a 45 Colt cyl that came in on Wednesday for $1300.00 and I thought it was a deal too.
Maybe I’ll shoot both at same time.👍
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