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Post by RDW on Nov 12, 2019 19:13:52 GMT -5
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Post by RDW on Nov 12, 2019 19:16:15 GMT -5
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Post by RDW on Nov 12, 2019 19:17:15 GMT -5
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jdoc
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Post by jdoc on Nov 12, 2019 19:33:13 GMT -5
Those are fantastic. Keep up the super work and thanks.
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Post by RDW on Nov 12, 2019 20:15:00 GMT -5
Mr JRINGO Hope Your feeling better. Was Wondering how your Homage was going! Was going to post on your thread and ask what you decided, but Magnum started this one about the brass bisleys, and i noticed you had followed it a little. Since this is a Kind of a bisley Backstrap type situation and you implied a Keith Homage build i wanted to show you one of my favorites that just might spark your interest! a 1965 357 mid frame Old model Vaquero 7 shooter Keith # 5. Haha. Not really but since they didnt make them, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE. I DID DAWGONIT! Power Custom super sexy Bisley Hammer. JUST TO COOL! And a brass Keith # 5 Old model wide trigger. Tell me what ya think guys.  |
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Post by RDW on Nov 12, 2019 20:16:00 GMT -5
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Post by RDW on Nov 12, 2019 20:16:42 GMT -5
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Post by 41freak on Nov 12, 2019 20:36:54 GMT -5
Man all I can say is damnnnnn, those are awesome.....
Are you going to by chance be offering over sized grip panels for factory Bisley grip frames?
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rkrcpa
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Post by rkrcpa on Nov 12, 2019 22:37:29 GMT -5
This is going to get interesting in a hurry! I can't wait to see what everyone builds, I know my mind is working overtime.
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Post by needsmostuff on Nov 14, 2019 9:25:12 GMT -5
Hey Ronnie, Another waiter, watcher , lurker , drooler here.
Question about the bronze/ brown color of the cylinders shown. Is that a case color or an old barrel browning application or what ?
It is a great way to blend case colors and brass!
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Post by frankenfab on Nov 14, 2019 11:12:03 GMT -5
Man, I hope you used MACRO programming for all that stuff?! That is a lot of programming!
Fantastic work!
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Post by RDW on Nov 14, 2019 11:24:12 GMT -5
Hey Needmostuff.
I LIKE THAT NAME!
I practice that in my everyday life, LOL. So much to make, so little time.
In the early eighties i used 4140 and 4130 Steel to make a cylinder because it was available for blued steel and Martensitic 416 for stainless. Already heat treated and a booger bear to machine with high speed tools. HSS. However with a new position as a cnc tech at a major oil tools company (Baker oil tools)in 1985, Carbide became more available to me as well as a well trained and seasoned group of tool grinders in the tooling department that i befriended. They were all gun nuts and were only more than happy to help me build reamers and super nuclear, ninja, funkadelic cutting tools for my efforts on their own firearms. Its Funny how many of what we called Government projects at that facility i could get away with with a little work on the managers stuff! Jess Briley was an aquaintance and i installed tons of his chokes on their shotguns and built numerous five shooters for them as well as the general populous of maintenance men and machinists. Bowt a thousand employees there! One of our heat treaters and a phd metallurgist himself mentioned precipitation hardening 17-4 PH. It was pointed out to me at that time by him and a close friend of mine and a fellow nutbag wacko designer of all kinds of madness, like myself. HaHa That indeed you could machine it to size and heat treat it at a temperature that was well below distortion temp! So we tried it and i have been using it ever since. In about 1990 i met John Linebaugh over the phone checking on the availability of 348 brass and had many conversations about our work. He was such a nice fella and mentioned that he liked the 17-4 ph himself further reinforcing my choice. I had just changed out about 20 Digital read outs for our bridgeport mills an had a surplus of them. I sent him one so he could get a better handle on positioning on his mill and he was very grateful. He in turn sent me a pile of already prepared 500s and I have always had great respect for that man. Sixshooter guys are the greatest!
So with that being explained. 17-4 ph (Precipitation Hardening) Martensitic stainless steel comes to us in 2" od barstock. Cut it ,Shape it, Drill it, bore it, Fit it. Put it into an oven for one hour and fifteen minutes at 900° F! 1 hour is the standard, but i like the extra fifteen minutes for temp saturation of the cylinder. Remove and air cool with a small fan till ambeint. It will be 42 C Rockwell everytime! Elastic and Hard baby.
With that being said (H900 process) it will be a beautiful shiny brown when polished before hardening Like the next picture of the 500 ALASKA Homage in the next picture or a mat when blasted or Semi antique brown when sanded with 320 grit in the lathe like the 7 shooter pics before! I love The brown. It just fits in with an old school sixer! The 17-4 also blues very well with Brownells # 84 at about 257° F, Utilising the previous methods of shiny versus Dull preparation tactics that i mentioned! Or if you have a stainless sixer just heat treat it, Cool it, Dip it in muratic for a few seconds and the brown will come off, then match it to your frame!
Great Stuff. Very Tuff!
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Post by RDW on Nov 14, 2019 11:24:57 GMT -5
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Post by RDW on Nov 14, 2019 11:28:42 GMT -5
Man, I hope you used MACRO programming for all that stuff?! That is a lot of programming! Fantastic work! Thanks FrankenFab You Know the gig dont you bud. Lot of hours in front of the pc. And over a hundred grand in gibbs cam over the last 10 years! LOL Sure is fun though when you see the end product. GOD I LOVE THIS COUNTRY! |
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Post by needsmostuff on Nov 14, 2019 13:41:37 GMT -5
Thanks RDW, as Paul Harvey said "That's the rest of the story".
A beautiful finish with wonderful tech. behind it.
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