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Post by leftysixgun on Jan 27, 2019 9:41:01 GMT -5
Ive kinda gotten the taste for a Vaquero lately. But Ruger doesnt make one in 44spl. So my question is can a 357 cylinder be linebored and rechambered to the next larger cartridge. For instance, 357 linebored and rechambered to 44spl?
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Post by eskimo36 on Jan 27, 2019 10:00:14 GMT -5
Yes it can. Rechamber and rebarrrel and you are there.
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Post by leftysixgun on Jan 27, 2019 10:18:43 GMT -5
While rechambering, can the cylinder be linebored to achieve perfect alignment.
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Post by ncrobb on Jan 27, 2019 10:36:31 GMT -5
Don’t forget to change the caliber marking on the frame. The devil is in the detail. I have heard this is an option with some smiths. Never figured that out, they should figure that in as part of the work.
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Post by Fowler on Jan 27, 2019 10:44:51 GMT -5
Ive kinda gotten the taste for a Vaquero lately. But Ruger doesnt make one in 44spl. So my question is can a 357 cylinder be linebored and rechambered to the next larger cartridge. For instance, 357 linebored and rechambered to 44spl? Ruger has made several runs of New Vaqueros in 44sp over the last few years. Simple enough build to take a .357 and make it into a top notch 44sp for sure. With a 5 shot cylinder you could go 44 mag, heavy 45 colt, or even 480 Ruger as well. I’ve thought a 38/40 that would run stouter loads in would be a fun way to go too. |
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Post by jgt on Jan 27, 2019 10:45:45 GMT -5
Yes, but the cylinder pin hole and pin have to be trued and fitted and the cylinder bushing fitted to eliminate end shake. Then the bolt has to be fitted to exclude any side play and the timing set. Once that is achieved then the cylinder can be set up and line bored or line indexed. Either process will give the accuracy you desire. You must know what size the rifling is in the barrel to be installed so you can let the gunsmith know what size you want the throats to be cut during rechambering. Normally, I ask for a thousandth larger than the barrel rifling so I can shoot cast bullets with the best fit.
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Post by jgt on Jan 27, 2019 11:23:42 GMT -5
There are gunsmiths that can build more powerful caliber on the midframe you are referring to, I would advise you against it. A good custom gunsmith can fit the tolerances so more powerful cartridges can be chambered in a five shot cylinder. If you stick to your original plan to build a 44 special you will be able to fire a 250 grn bullet up to 1200fps and it will give you all the recoil you want with that medium frame. The good news is it will be safe because all the tolerances will have been checked and set so there is no worse case of tolerance stacking in the negative. There is no substitute for a good shooting 44 special. To shoot or to load for. If I was going to spend extra money on the build, rather than put it into a 5 shot cylinder wonder cartridge. I would also counsel you spend it toward a dovetailed windage adjustable front sight and a lower hammer spur like a Bisley or Super Blackhawk. Spend some on a trigger job and grips to die for.
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Post by leftysixgun on Jan 27, 2019 12:34:20 GMT -5
There are gunsmiths that can build more powerful caliber on the midframe you are referring to, I would advise you against it. A good custom gunsmith can fit the tolerances so more powerful cartridges can be chambered in a five shot cylinder. If you stick to your original plan to build a 44 special you will be able to fire a 250 grn bullet up to 1200fps and it will give you all the recoil you want with that medium frame. The good news is it will be safe because all the tolerances will have been checked and set so there is no worse case of tolerance stacking in the negative. There is no substitute for a good shooting 44 special. To shoot or to load for. If I was going to spend extra money on the build, rather than put it into a 5 shot cylinder wonder cartridge. I would also counsel you spend it toward a dovetailed windage adjustable front sight and a lower hammer spur like a Bisley or Super Blackhawk. Spend some on a trigger job and grips to die for. I had no plans of going with anything more powerful than the 44spl, that was someone elses comment. I dont enjoy the big powerhouse cartridges in smaller frames. |
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Post by singleaction on Jan 27, 2019 17:28:07 GMT -5
Lipsey’s had Ruger do ONE run of 44 special vaqueros. This was around 2010, or so. They were produced in blue and stainless in 3.75” and 4.625” barrels. Production numbers were not very high. You can find one for sale on G-broker etc, now and then. They tend to sell in the $1k range lately. I believe new vaquero 357 cylinders are slightly shorter than 44 spl and 45 colt cylinders, but that doesn’t matter with the vast majority of bullets. Line bored cylinders are nice, and may boost your confidence. However, most newer vaquero’s and blackhawk’s just need a good fire lapping and proper bullet diameter to bring out top notch accuracy. David Clements’ Jeff Quinn Special seems like the best deal going for a line bored conversion, and his guns have a well earned rep for excellent accuracy.
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Post by blacktailslayer on Jan 28, 2019 14:55:14 GMT -5
You can always shoot 44spl in a 44mag. Lots of Vaqueros in 44 mag, likely the cheapest option.
Don D.
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Post by singleaction on Jan 28, 2019 16:39:01 GMT -5
You can always shoot 44spl in a 44mag. Lots of Vaqueros in 44 mag, likely the cheapest option. Don D. True, but the 44mag vaqueros are built on the larger 44mag frame. Many, myself included, prefer the smaller "new vaquero", or 357 mid size frame, that the 44 specials are built on, as they are closer in size to the Colt SAA. |
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Post by edk on Jan 29, 2019 5:43:29 GMT -5
Line boring is good but if you can somehow measure the cyl-to-bore alignment or otherwise determine it is a good shooter as a 357, the cylinder could be a simple rechamber job saving you a ton of money. The blocking and other steps to insure accuracy/longevity would otherwise not be needed the way they are on a 500L.
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Post by ddixie884 on Feb 1, 2019 3:17:18 GMT -5
There are some .44spl NVs out there. I'd try to find one rather than build. I bought one of the short ones in stainless when they came out. It is a very handy lil dude......
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Post by needsmostuff on Mar 8, 2019 10:09:01 GMT -5
Hey Lefty they did make them and I bet it would be easier to find one than make one. Here is one just to inspire you.  Then again they make all these with sights which might be "close enough" or at least a good source of barrels and cylinders.  |
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Post by leftysixgun on Mar 8, 2019 10:42:18 GMT -5
Needsmostuff, thank you for the inspiration. I have a 44spl with sights already. Looking for one without, lol
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