kywindage
.240 Incinerator
"Ridin' the range once more, Packin' my old .44..."
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Post by kywindage on Nov 26, 2009 19:48:04 GMT -5
Thanks Chip, I will email Herretts tomorrow. They deposited my check so I have something to go by. Perhaps I'll be able to open them on Christmas morning!
Mr. Taffin, if you read this, you might consider it as a story idea. How an individuals hand size should be considered when ordering stocks. Some designs fit small and/or average hands better while some work better for those with large hands. From what you say I should have ordered Ropers instead of Jordans. Well, the deed is done and I will report my findings when they come in.
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mtnbkr
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Post by mtnbkr on Nov 27, 2009 8:29:58 GMT -5
I HAVE FAIRLY LARGE HANDS BUT THE JORDANS ARE TOO BIG FOR ME. BILL HAD VERY LARGE HANDS AND HE DESIGNED THEM TO FIT HIMSELF. I PREFER THE ROPERS OR BLUMAGNUM'S SKEETER SKELTONS. GOOD SHOOTIN' AND GOD BLESS, JOHN . If I sent my had drawings into Herretts with an order for Troopers and they felt my hand was too small, would they say anything or just process the order and ship the Troopers? I'm very interested in Troopers because of what I read about their design in No Second Place Winner. Jordan stated the design keeps the gun from slipping in the hand and spreads the recoil forces more so it doesn't beat the hand so bad (by covering and reshaping the backstrap area). I think that would be useful in a heavy recoiling gun. The Ropers, on the other hand, look like regular grips with an exposed backstrap. Chris
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Post by taffin on Nov 27, 2009 12:21:37 GMT -5
THEY WILL MAKE WHAT YOU ASKED FOR. CALL THEM AND SEE IF THEY HAVE STARTED ON THEM YET. (THE TIME TO ASK FOR ADVICE IS BEFORE ORDERING)
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mtnbkr
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Post by mtnbkr on Nov 27, 2009 14:54:31 GMT -5
I haven't placed an order yet. I'll probably check with them after the Holidays.
Chris
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kywindage
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"Ridin' the range once more, Packin' my old .44..."
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Post by kywindage on Nov 28, 2009 8:08:04 GMT -5
They are quoting me 12 - 15 weeks. I have decided to stick with the Jordans as the concensus of advice is they are best for me and the little Mountain Gun.
All in all this has been a pretty interesting thread!
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Post by boxhead on Nov 28, 2009 9:22:58 GMT -5
Now that I am home I have played with the Herrett Targets that I picked up from CDNN and they are very nice. Smaller than the factory S&W Target with slight palm swells. The wood is nicely figured too and they fit an old M29 I tried them on perfectly. Not bad for $37.
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Post by Frank V on Dec 4, 2009 11:21:03 GMT -5
When I ordered my Jordan Troopers ( it was a number of years ago) they wanted a tracing of my hand. I've used them a lot & I really like them. They do spread out the recoil, & seem to soften it some. They are on the verge of being too large & I wear XL gloves. I'd buy them again. Frank
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kywindage
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"Ridin' the range once more, Packin' my old .44..."
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Post by kywindage on Dec 4, 2009 13:22:58 GMT -5
Yes, Herretts still requires a hand tracing for their custom stocks. Because of that, I figure they will be adjusted to fit my medium-sized hand.
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cubrock
.401 Bobcat
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Post by cubrock on Dec 4, 2009 17:44:10 GMT -5
I have used both and prefer the Jordan Troopers for heavier recoil. The Ropers are too thin for me for .44 Mag recoil and their corners tend to bang into the bony edges of my palm with unpleasant results. You can't really know if something works for you unless you try it. In the end, even if you have to "waste" a bit of money experimenting, a lifetime of enjoying what works for you is more than worth it.
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Chip
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Post by Chip on Dec 4, 2009 18:26:42 GMT -5
I have Herrett Ropers on my M625, M586 and a M581 and I love them. They aren't heavy recoiling handguns though.
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Post by MackaySagebrush on Dec 10, 2009 12:20:36 GMT -5
I have large sized hands and have used both Jordan Troopers and Ropers from Herrett's. The Troopers were too large for me. I ended up selling them to someone who had to have them. While too large for me they were flat out beautiful. The Ropers have worked very well for me.
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Post by Bowenbuilt on Dec 13, 2009 20:00:17 GMT -5
Herrett Detectives Herrett Roper's
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kywindage
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"Ridin' the range once more, Packin' my old .44..."
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Post by kywindage on Dec 14, 2009 8:12:05 GMT -5
I have used both and prefer the Jordan Troopers for heavier recoil. The Ropers are too thin for me for .44 Mag recoil and their corners tend to bang into the bony edges of my palm with unpleasant results. You can't really know if something works for you unless you try it. In the end, even if you have to "waste" a bit of money experimenting, a lifetime of enjoying what works for you is more than worth it. Since my main goal is to get some control of the Mountain Gun, I plan to stick with the Jordan Trooper design and see what happens. Thanks for all of the great comments and photos! By the way, I covet that 8 3//8" Model 27!
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Post by brionic on Dec 15, 2009 11:22:17 GMT -5
What works for me and my medium sized hands:
Bigger target type grips for hunting, target shooting, mostly magnum level shooting. Open back style. Smaller grips, still in the "target" style, for most carry and general purpose shooting. Anytime I might be shooting one handed, smaller grips are preferred. Magna grips - for easy shooting calibers. Well fitted magnas (e.g. from early 60's and before) are a pleasure to hold.
Overall, I found that I needed to try several different styles to determine what works best for me. My friends' grips didn't always work for my hands, nor did those that might LOOK great. And some makers show variance from set to set, so finding the right pair is important.
The two most critical elements of good grips for ME are the middle finger to thumb circumference and the grip to grip frame radius.
Hand fit Herretts are a good deal less expensive than some of their competitors and are not only well made but beautiful and comfortable. The off the shelf Herretts are, OTOH, somewhat lacking in fit and finish. I did not care for the polyurethane finish on a pair of K targets that I picked up from CDNN, nor for the gap between the triggerguard and grip. -- Br.
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Post by poohgyrr on Jan 1, 2010 3:38:11 GMT -5
How do those round butt Detectives work, compared to the square or a set of round to square conversions?
I have one of those recent M21's and it's sweet.
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