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Post by leftysixgun on Jul 1, 2019 21:47:17 GMT -5
The ejector rod on my max is odd, a shape I havent seen before. The majority of the ejector rod is triangular shaped, about 75% of the length.
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Post by bradshaw on Jul 1, 2019 23:12:51 GMT -5
The ejector rod on my max is odd, a shape I havent seen before. The majority of the ejector rod is triangular shaped, about 75% of the length. ***** Ejector rod contoured to extract long .357 Maximum case without binding against chamber exit hole. Your rod is correct. David Bradshaw |
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Post by Lee Martin on Dec 23, 2019 19:01:23 GMT -5
I finally tried Reloader 7 with our 194 gr bullet. This is the slowest powder tested to date. 100 were loaded with 24.0 grs, which is compressed via deep seating. These were shot alongside 100 of our go-to 18.5 grs IMR 4227. As always, shooting was done off a bench @ 100 yards.  24.0 grs RL-7 = 1,312 fps 18.5 grs IMR 4227 = 1,465 fps Those are five shot averages in 31 degree air. The RL-7 shot pretty well. This is a typical group from that powder on the day. When I did my part, it returned 6-7”.  18.5 grs of IMR-4227 is still the champ. It’s quite capable of 4” groups when I steer the gun correctly:  Side note - my Remington brass is starting to die. Out of the 200 rounds fired, 6 split. They’re on their 14th reload, all max or near-max. I plan to restock with Starline next month.  -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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Post by sixshot on Dec 23, 2019 19:07:40 GMT -5
All joking aside, with iron sights that is some world class shooting at 100 yds. It takes a good gun, good load & a good SHOOTER! Bingo!
Dick
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Post by squigz on Dec 26, 2019 8:30:12 GMT -5
I'm so happy this thread came back around. I was gifted a Max for my birthday from my uncle, unfortunately it's un-fired and I plan on keeping it that way. Guess I'll just have to buy another one to shoot. Need to get some of these bullets and see what can be done with them, I'll never be able to shoot half that well, but I'll surely try and be a dummy!
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Post by sixshot on Dec 26, 2019 20:15:20 GMT -5
Why not shoot it, it's still going to be a very valuable gun if you take care of it. And what if you did learn to shoot like that, wouldn't it be worth it. Lee Martin isn't a born shooter, he's a learned shooter. David Bradshaw wasn't born a world champion, he shot himself into being a world champion, just saying.
Dick
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Post by 45MAN on Dec 26, 2019 21:15:05 GMT -5
SQUIGZ: WHAT YOU SAVING THE MAX FOR? UNLESS YOU PLAN ON SELLING IT TO A PICKY COLLECTOR, SHOOT IT, ENJOY IT, BUT TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT.
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Post by squigz on Dec 27, 2019 8:18:29 GMT -5
I'm not sure honestly guys. I just have this sentimental value to it that I feel like if I shot it, I would lose it. I've had many guns I've done the same thing with in the past and ended up firing and enjoying.
More than likely I'm going to end up shooting it, I think it's just a shock factor for the time being.
I've also never sold a gun, so to me the only price a gun has is the one that I'm paying for it, everything else is priceless in my mind.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 2, 2020 10:11:02 GMT -5
“.... our go-to 18.5 grs IMR 4227.... bench @ 100 yards. 18.5 grs IMR 4227 = 1,465 fps Those are five shot averages in 31 degree air. 18.5 grs of IMR-4227 is still the champ. It’s quite capable of 4” groups when I steer the gun correctly: -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" [/quote] ***** To break in New Year’s Day, I shot 600-00018, a.k.a. #18, with Bisley grip. Notably, the pistol wears an Omega peep sight and Ruger ramp front configured for the Single-Six .32. Snowy targets, cardboard and steel, shot in bright sun----which washes out the yellow-painted ramp. Shot again in the fading light of dusk. Shooting offhand @ 35 to 50 yards. Earlier in the season I tracked a healthy track, through softwoods and hard, finally jumping the whitetail in the silent-to-human-ears snow. Open hardwoods on a ridge. Huge doe at 15 yards bounds slow motion to my left. Bradshaw-Martin load on board, #18 rises to the eye.... Sweeping torso to forward point of shoulder where fur meets blur. Shooter’s brain notes throughout two or three second exposure, the deer's beautiful head is bald. A huge doe. Deerskin glove barely touching 22 ounce trigger, the finger refrains. And the solo deer I tracked as a buck vanishes. 15 yards, open hardwoods (some would not call this wood “open”), as clear a presentation as a hunter can hope for. A gorgeous whitetail----without horns. The Omega aperture insert in the Ruger sight would have worked, but only because the visual was near perfect. A huge deer, so close the fat black ring does not obscure this large target. I had practiced with the aperture & ramp picture, determined to know whether this arrangement has potential. New Year’s day reveals the flaw of an aperture sight at arms length. It is junk. Because you may get away with it----under ideal conditions----proves nothing under adversity. The peep sight was conceived to work close to the eye, where the eye optically centers without looking at the sight. Worst of all, the fat black ring around the hole hides any small target except a bullseye. If the aperture isn’t confusing enough, fading light dims the picture in the window. Yesterday proves to my satisfaction this ugly aperture must come off. To liberate #18 to once again be a marksmanship tool. David Bradshaw |
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 12, 2020 13:30:30 GMT -5
The subject of DEEP SEATING continues to pop up. Two most often asked questions: What about PRESSURE? What about ACCURACY?
Leave the pressure question to handloading. Proper load development renders seating depth a non-ssue.
Accuracy should be a non-issue. Perhaps because the the old boogeymen bullet jump is a recurrent theme of handloading. The Bradshaw-Martin 194 is designed specifically without a crimp groove for DEEP SEATING. Jump is not nearly the issue in a revolver some folks make it out to be. Not only has a revolver a series of chambers separate from the barrel, it is impossible to launch a revolver bullet without jump. The issues center around bullet ALIGNMENT between chamber and bore, between at rest in cartridge case and guidance of groove support during acceleration.
As stated at the git-go, the Bradshaw-Martin 194 was designed for the Ruger Blackhawk Maximum. We expect in time to see how it does in other revolvers.
David Bradshaw
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 12, 2020 15:17:04 GMT -5
bamagreg.... pages 1 & 5 show our 194 SWC deep seated.
To DEEP SEAT a SWC, I seat shoulder of front band .020 to .060-inch below mouth of case. Then roll crimp.
David Bradshaw
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Post by contender on Feb 28, 2020 10:58:48 GMT -5
Well, my long awaited dive into this Bradshaw-Martin .357 Maxi shooting has finally gotten off the ground. My failure to get in sooner was due to focusing on elk hunting & casting & shooting my .45 Colt so much,, that I didn't have time to get it going. I did get my brass mold a long time ago,, and another member sent me his aluminum mold to cast him some bullets. So,, in the last several weeks,, among all my other commitments, I've been working on casting some of these bullets. The brass mold has been working just fine,, but the aluminum mold still throws wrinkled bullets. I've cast & scrapped around 300-400 bullets from it so far. I've cleaned it twice, increased the heat a bit,, & all known tricks,, but it's still not "seasoned" yet. But,, it is getting close.
Now,, I'm picky about my bullets. I don't accept any wrinkles in my bullets. I scrap them.
This morning,, I re-read the entire 12 pages of posts,, (again,) and in looking at Dick's bullets before coating,, as well as what I could tell in Lee's pictures,, I see wrinkles on some bullets I'd scrap. Makes me wonder a bit.
I will say,, that I have the bullets completed (as of last night) to send to the generous member here,,) first. I also saved a few hundred of what I call "minor flawed" bullets to start my shooting & testing. I also have some unflawed bullets to shoot for myself.
So,, after 2 years now,, I'm FINALLY getting to jump into this playground & see if I can duplicate the results I see. I will be using my 10-1/2" Ruger,, with a Fermin front sight. I'll also use my 10" T/C Contender, scoped, to see how it performs. Hopefully, over the next few days,, I'll have a report.
I,, like Dick,, (previously) have never tried deep seating over the front driving band any of my cast bullets. This will be my first attempt at it. I too was raised in the school of using a crimp groove as it was there for a reason. But,, you are NEVER too old to learn something new.
Reviving an older thread,, with a little new life to it!
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 28, 2020 12:31:33 GMT -5
Tyrone.... great to hear you’re in. We caught another heavy snowfall last night. Plowed; now to shovel. I had hoped the other day the recover the .357 Bradshaw-Martin 194 at 200 to 300 yards in snow. Snow deep and soft enough you sink 1 to 2 feet each step on snowshoes. Two bullets elusive of recovery this winter: Bradshaw-Martin .357 194 SWC GC, and .45 335 SWC. Come spring, perhaps I’ll find a few.
As for your wrinkled bullets, try POWDER COAT. You have nothing to lose but accuracy. It’s worth an experiment. The anneal from powder coating may improve the bullet. One way to find out. I’ve shot plenty of questionable bullets in practice, just not in tournaments or for hunting. Note: I did not say QUESTIONABLE LOAD!
David Bradshaw
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Post by contender on Feb 28, 2020 14:17:31 GMT -5
David,,, I do powder coat all my cast bullets. And,, since I do chase accuracy,, I cull a lot of bullets that,, in my eyes,, are flawed. I also weigh all the good ones,, to catch the odd bullet that may be too light or too heavy.
I've saved a few hundred of my minor flawed bullets to play with. I plan on trying them,, alongside my best bullets to see how accurate they are. I may be culling too many usable bullets.
BUT,, I only use my best ones for hunting. I try & eliminate as many physical issues as I can,, so that any variances will be that loose nut behind the trigger.
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Post by sixshot on Feb 28, 2020 14:45:06 GMT -5
Tyrone, if the wrinkles are just on the nose, no problem because nothing is coming in contact with the barrel. That's why you see some of my bullets get past the smell test, it doesn't matter & the powder coating covers up any minor detail.
Also if you are having casting problems after that many bullets, I would try pressure casting, hold the mold right up against the nipple until you're sure you are getting good fill out & I think your wrinkle problem will be gone.
Dick
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