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Post by 2 Dogs on Mar 6, 2018 13:03:43 GMT -5
Wow Steve, you never fail to impress. Just outstanding in every way!!
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Post by newrugersafan on Mar 6, 2018 16:00:47 GMT -5
How about some details on this beauty?!!! Thank you. Alan Harton built this on a 1956 Ruger Flat Top. Harton made the grip frame fron a Ruger Bisley back strap and Powers Colt front strap. Grips, base pin, front sight, hammer and black powder bevel were all done by Harton. Alan blued it and Turnbull did the case color and David Clements supplied the trigger. Alan also worked on the trigger, rechambered it to 44 special and sent the barrel out to be bored for the 44 caliber. I did not go with the # 5 pin retainer for a couple reasons, I like the clean lines of the cylinder frame without it and I wasn't going for a real recreation just wanted an old model 44 special with features that I like. The stock base pin retainer does a fine job keeping the base pin where it belongs. I also stayed with the original barrel because I like the 4 5/8 " length and I wanted to keep the Ruger barrel address. When I took that picture it was covered in burned gunpowder, it does clean up real nice. |
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Post by cubrock on Mar 6, 2018 20:00:41 GMT -5
Thank you. Alan Harton built this on a 1956 Ruger Flat Top. Harton made the grip frame fron a Ruger Bisley back strap and Powers Colt front strap. Grips, base pin, front sight, hammer and black powder bevel were all done by Harton. Alan blued it and Turnbull did the case color and David Clements supplied the trigger. Alan also worked on the trigger, rechambered it to 44 special and sent the barrel out to be bored for the 44 caliber. I did not go with the # 5 pin retainer for a couple reasons, I like the clean lines of the cylinder frame without it and I wasn't going for a real recreation just wanted an old model 44 special with features that I like. The stock base pin retainer does a fine job keeping the base pin where it belongs. I also stayed with the original barrel because I like the 4 5/8 " length and I wanted to keep the Ruger barrel address. When I took that picture it was covered in burned gunpowder, it does clean up real nice. Looks like a perfect packin' pistol to my eyes. Very nice build! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 0:05:07 GMT -5
There are some beautiful sixguns in this thread. Wow!
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Post by akray on Mar 7, 2018 10:52:45 GMT -5
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Post by cubrock on Mar 7, 2018 11:06:47 GMT -5
Wonder what he would charge for that build? I remember when we first heard about Alan Harton and how quickly and cheaply you could get a really great custom. Then he got busy and more expensive. Might be a good time for a Ryan Hoover build.
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Post by potatojudge on Mar 7, 2018 15:29:47 GMT -5
Cubrock, what I wouldn't give to spend a day going through your safe(s)! Interesting the prototype No 5 doesn't have what we classically think of as a "No 5" front sight. Also, any chance we could get a pic of the butt cap on that NF? It looks like each ivory panel has it's own half-moon cap? I've always liked the look of a butt cap, mostly on older S&W DA guns. Yes, each panel has its own half-moon cap. I just looked and don't have pics of the bottom that would show this. I'll have to take one when I can dig the gun out again. K1 was hand built, along with two other prototypes that went to other people involved in the project (Keith DeHart and Dan Love, off the top of my head). There are definite differences between them and what would later become standard configuration of the TLA Number Five. For that matter, most of the early guns (pre-1990 or so) have differences compared to the later guns, when Grover moved to his new shop in the early 1990s. If you are ever out NC way, give me a shout and we can dig through the safe together. It probably isn't as impressive as you might imagine, but it would be fun for both of us, nonetheless.  I'd love to take you up on the offer some day. Hmmm I have a BMW //M driving course voucher that I can use at their North Carolina track... It'd make for an awesome weekend! |
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Post by tullymars on Mar 8, 2018 7:36:07 GMT -5
I had a Clements #5 several years ago. Found it at a gun show and bought it for a song. Later sold it to help fund a TLA. One of the few I wish I had back, along with the USFA Flat Top Target that helped fund a TLA Flat Top Target. Sigh... Speaking of TLAs, I have a "few" Number Fives by Grover. This one takes the cake, though - the prototype, serial number K1. Engraved by Dan Love.  I don't think I've ever seen a pic off this one before. Lots of nice customs on here bring a smile to my face but this one makes my heart flutter like Elmers # 5. |
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Post by rleprechaun on Mar 14, 2018 22:35:52 GMT -5
I know this is about copys of keith's # 5. I must comment about several of the men involved. I meet Mr. Keith at Champlin Arms in 1975. He was picking up a 338-378 KT rifle. Why he would want to talk to a 21 year old green horn, I will never know, but it left a lasting impression to this day. I never meet Mr. Bil Grover, but I talked to him on the phone. That conversation renewed my interest in revolvers.
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Post by cubrock on Mar 15, 2018 9:32:04 GMT -5
I know this is about copys of keith's # 5. I must comment about several of the men involved. I meet Mr. Keith at Champlin Arms in 1975. He was picking up a 338-378 KT rifle. Why he would want to talk to a 21 year old green horn, I will never know, but it left a lasting impression to this day. I never meet Mr. Bil Grover, but I talked to him on the phone. That conversation renewed my interest in revolvers. He wanted to talk to a 21 year old greenhorn because everything I've read and heard about Elmer Keith was that he was the real deal and really wanted others to share in shooting interests. He believed that the shooting heritage had to be passed down for it to survive. Yours is not the only story, by far, about Keith taking time out for a younger shooter. There are many other stories like yours. Heck, a young man by the name of Bill Grover used to write to Keith and got personal responses to every letter. Grover, as a very young man, even sent Keith his copy of Sixguns to be autographed.  |
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Post by 2 Dogs on Mar 15, 2018 9:57:57 GMT -5
I know this is about copys of keith's # 5. I must comment about several of the men involved. I meet Mr. Keith at Champlin Arms in 1975. He was picking up a 338-378 KT rifle. Why he would want to talk to a 21 year old green horn, I will never know, but it left a lasting impression to this day. I never meet Mr. Bil Grover, but I talked to him on the phone. That conversation renewed my interest in revolvers. He wanted to talk to a 21 year old greenhorn because everything I've read and heard about Elmer Keith was that he was the real deal and really wanted others to share in shooting interests. He believed that the shooting heritage had to be passed down for it to survive. Yours is not the only story, by far, about Keith taking time out for a younger shooter. There are many other stories like yours. Heck, a young man by the name of Bill Grover used to write to Keith and got personal responses to every letter. Grover, as a very young man, even sent Keith his copy of Sixguns to be autographed. THATS living the Keith lifestyle boys! |
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