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Post by paulg on Mar 10, 2017 6:28:11 GMT -5
Oh but Mr. Thompson, what about those poor animals? It just drives me bananas when the anti's get on their soapbox. I wish they'd go take a look at what hunters like you contribute to the local people. Especially to those kids.
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Post by seak89 on Mar 10, 2017 12:08:10 GMT -5
I have shot my share of bears but would love to go on a guided hunt with someone like Jake Jefferson or Joe Want just to hear the stories. Some times the bear comes so easy you feel cheated for the money spent and other times its a bust. Decide on how much bear you want and don't take on the last day what you passed on the first as ten years later you still won't be happy. Also add the cost of mount or rug in you money plan as it can get spendy fast.
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Post by sixshot on Mar 10, 2017 14:48:02 GMT -5
I agree on the guided thing, although my only time doing it was in Africa. Can't really imagine a white guy wandering around in South Africa with a handgun without a PH (guide) you wouldn't have a very good experience. All the meat went to the locals which was mostly made into Biltong (Jerky) without it their diet is mostly Porridge, at least where we were hunting.
Again, Alaska is a dream come true, just realize that flying is how it is done & walking & hiking is how it's done once you are on the ground which means you have to cover a lot of ground sometimes. Sometimes that can be straight up & sometimes that can be very wet, you have to be prepared. What these guys are saying that live there is worth writing down because they are helping out a lot. If you need hip boots I suggest you buy them in Anchorage, most places have the ankle fit one's that work best for walking distances rather than what we use down here in the lower 48, what they refer to as "outside" Get in shape! If you are gasping for air after jogging from the TV to the fridge then Alaska isn't for you, go to Africa, they can get you everything you want from the comfort of the Safari truck.
Dick
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Post by mike454 on Mar 10, 2017 21:57:12 GMT -5
Everything said about Africa is true, except historically it has been very unproductive for big brown bear. For those you go to Alaska, or maybe Russia.
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Post by bulasteve on Mar 11, 2017 8:05:59 GMT -5
Sadly, for us, by the time you have the money and time for these kinda hunts, you are likely having a difficult time keeping in any kinda shape ! Problem two is setting priorities. Are you a shooter or a hunter ? I'll admit I have more guns than I need for hunting and CCW. I could use a better rifle for distance, for deer. Everyone has to make these calls themselves. I receieved an Uncle's guns when he passed some years back. Him and his brother hunted their whole lives. He had 3 guns ! A 1917 Enfield by way of Winchester in 30-06, an M37 Ithacagun 16ga and A Colt .38 PP that I think he brought home from WW2. That covered anything and everything he hunted. Am kinda wondering if there had been a .22 of some kind that disappeared. An obvious hole in the battery. I missed out on getting his brothers Colt Woodsman, sigh. Then there is fishing..have at least two rods for any kind of fishing I may do, some kinds I know I'll never do, but the gear is here. Again, sigh. What is our problem ? LOL ! Sooo, can you imagine hunting Brown Bears on the Kamchatka ? Oooooh ! Understand a fair number of us humans have gotten 'et there.
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Post by whitworth on Mar 11, 2017 8:41:12 GMT -5
Everything said about Africa is true, except historically it has been very unproductive for big brown bear. For those you go to Alaska, or maybe Russia. Hahahahah! |
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Post by sixshot on Mar 11, 2017 17:24:07 GMT -5
Not so sure about that, half the kids I saw in Africa were "bare"
Dick
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Post by sportster on Mar 23, 2017 17:58:58 GMT -5
I almost got one about 7 years ago. Kind of an informal event. He was standing on the shoulder of the road as I drove by in a semi.
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Post by rangersedge on Mar 24, 2017 18:52:30 GMT -5
Sportster: What kind of contact energy does that semi provide at the velocity you were traveling?
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Post by Snyd on Mar 24, 2017 19:59:09 GMT -5
Sportster: What kind of contact energy does that semi provide at the velocity you were traveling? It prolly hits like a Mac truck! |
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Post by sportster on Mar 24, 2017 20:36:52 GMT -5
Sportster: What kind of contact energy does that semi provide at the velocity you were traveling? Lets see, 60 mph at 65,000 lbs. Lets involve some math here and that equals alot. Probably would have put the semi out of action and the bear as well. First time I saw one in the wild. As I went by it I was thinking to myself, that was a bear? One of those moments where you know what you saw but still had to process it. |
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Post by Snyd on Mar 24, 2017 21:42:08 GMT -5
Sportster: What kind of contact energy does that semi provide at the velocity you were traveling? Lets see, 60 mph at 65,000 lbs. Lets involve some math here and that equals alot. Probably would have put the semi out of action and the bear as well. First time I saw one in the wild. As I went by it I was thinking to myself, that was a bear? One of those moments where you know what you saw but still had to process it. Well lets see what the Taylor Knockout Formula says.... (DISCLAIMER: I'm on painkillers doing math so your results may vary) Truck weight- 455000000gr Truck Caliber- hmmm how about 8ft converted to inches - 96 Truck Velocity- 88fps Bullet Weight (in grains) X Caliber (in inches) X Velocity ÷ 7000 = Knock Out (KO) 455000000 X 96 X 88 ÷ 7000 Taylor Knockout = 549120000 John Linebaugh was right, big heavy slow....  A .30-06 rifle using a 180 gr. bullet at 2600 fps: 180 x .308 x 2600 = 144144 ÷ 7000 = 20.5 KO |
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Post by whitworth on Mar 24, 2017 22:22:07 GMT -5
You seem pretty lucid to me!
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Post by boxhead on Mar 26, 2017 22:30:06 GMT -5
I hunted brown bear in SE Alaska last spring, twelve days on a ten day hunt, and came home empty. Poor weather, my 9" minimum and heavily rubbed bears were it. Next spring I will head to Kodiak to give it another go. And, yeah, it is hunting up there though I have had the same with my 20+ years of DIY elk trips to Leadville Colorado and moose/elk/mountain caribou in Northern BC or black and grizzly in SE BC. All wonderful trips.
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Post by whitworth on Mar 27, 2017 8:13:03 GMT -5
I hunted brown bear in SE Alaska last spring, twelve days on a ten day hunt, and came home empty. Poor weather, my 9" minimum and heavily rubbed bears were it. Next spring I will head to Kodiak to give it another go. And, yeah, it is hunting up there though I have had the same with my 20+ years of DIY elk trips to Leadville Colorado and moose/elk/mountain caribou in Northern BC or black and grizzly in SE BC. All wonderful trips. What are you going to be using on your hunt on Kodiak? That sounds fantastic! |
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