woody
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Post by woody on Oct 5, 2009 18:19:00 GMT -5
Does anyone have a drilling? What maker, gauge/cal., etc. Hunted with it? Thinking of picking up a Sauer 16/16/8x57R.
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Post by Len on Oct 5, 2009 18:34:55 GMT -5
I have had a few years ago they were all pre war German guns I never hunted with them they were just part of my collection.
They made a lot of sense for European hunting where you could be after a deer and legally shoot a bird. Short of a light rifle combo for turkey hunting I am not sure of how practical it would be for hunting in this country.
Keep in mind when you put a rifle caliber in a break open action you cannot get anywhere the same performance as in a bolt gun. The doubles are not able to with stand high pressures they start coming off the face.
Len
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Post by robl on Oct 6, 2009 12:05:00 GMT -5
Eric,
Bill Hoyt, a friend of mine has a couple that he hunts with. One is a Sauer 12/12/30-06 with a .22 mag insert that is adjustable to the guns sights. He uses for bird and deer hunts both here and in the midwest.
We I linbed in N Idaho, I would have loved a Drilling for Pheasant , we jumped whitetail, quite frequently. We packed or .44s and a friend dropped a nice buck at about 120 yards with his 4" M-29 .
A drilling would have been perfect.
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Post by naphtali on Oct 6, 2009 14:01:23 GMT -5
Does anyone have a drilling? What maker, gauge/cal., etc. Hunted with it? Thinking of picking up a Sauer 16/16/8x57R. I strongly suggest you think harder. I have owned one Suhl Charles Daly 16/16/8x72 mm drilling from the turn of the twentieth century, mostly as a collector's "having" piece. I also made an expensive error in judgment. I bought a J.P. Sauer Model 3000 De Luxe 12/12/30-06 drilling. Why do I identify the drilling as an error in judgment? Rather than being a "do everything reasonably well" long arm, the drilling does nothing reasonably well. Don't get me wrong: The Sauer 3000 was very well made. It was also heavy, clumsy, unintuitive to use. Were I to use the rifle, the drilling's open sights limited the useful range of the 30-06 severely. Were I to install an adjustable aperture sight or scope, the shotgun mode becomes very difficult to use efficiently. And using either shotgun or rifle as single-purpose ling arm negates the intended reason to own a combination gun. A hammerless blitz (trigger plate) action drilling is a complicated mechanism that requires a level of skill to maintain that also requires special tools and a steep learning curve. And a blitz action drilling is among the least complex of this type of firearm. Having written that, I find Over/Under combination guns to be as useful in real-world hunting as drillings are not. And the single most impressive O/U gun I've used -- by a huge margin -- is Brno's ZH200/300 series. The differences between the ZH200 and ZH300 series are essentially cosmetic. The design is a marvel of simplicity and durability. Its potential liability is it looks like something the cat dragged in. However, I find it so ugly it's handsome. Hope this helps. |
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Post by woody on Oct 6, 2009 17:33:12 GMT -5
Not really looking to get one for strictly hunting. I just think they are neat and would like to own one.
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Post by cubrock on Oct 6, 2009 17:40:30 GMT -5
I just sold a 16X16/8X57JR for a buddy of mine. It had been very nicely refinished (so nicely, it was hard to tell at first it had been done) and I almost bought it for myself. While they are a bit impractical, it would have been neat to take one deer and maybe a few birds with it.
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Post by boxhead on Oct 7, 2009 10:40:41 GMT -5
I believe naphtali nailed it. I have come close but for reasons he has listed have held back. I will continue to look for that 9.3x74 SxS deal...
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Post by leverman44 on Oct 9, 2009 9:34:03 GMT -5
Please get eddikated on drillings, B 4 you pay real money for one, and possible take a bath (like I did, on my 1st one), due to being unaware of their possible faults.
A biggie, on value & repair cost, is that the ribs connecting the barrels MUST not have ANY gaps ( a sign of looseness) anywhere, including under the forend, etc. Inspect the edge of every running inch with a glass.
A second possible problem area would be if the flip-up rear sight doesn't activate when the rifle barrel is cocked.
Those are specialized areas, though - in addition to the "normal" inspections for faulty buttstock heads (oil soaked/cracked/etc) and pitted or dented barrels.
I've found them to be fairly accurate, though - probably due to all the barrels soldered together & supporting each other.
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Post by dutch on Dec 30, 2014 12:06:49 GMT -5
I have had a few years ago they were all pre war German guns I never hunted with them they were just part of my collection. They made a lot of sense for European hunting where you could be after a deer and legally shoot a bird. Short of a light rifle combo for turkey hunting I am not sure of how practical it would be for hunting in this country. Keep in mind when you put a rifle caliber in a break open action you cannot get anywhere the same performance as in a bolt gun. The doubles are not able to with stand high pressures they start coming off the face. Len I have a sauer and sohn 3000 lux. It's in 30-06 and 12 ga. I had Necg install claw mounts for a Schmidt and bender scope. I hunt the ozark mountains so I didn't really need the scope but it's nice to have if you are using the rifle. German claw mounts allow you to put on the scope when you need it and simply remove it without loss of zero. Without scope this drilling only weighs 8 lbs with ammo and sling. It weighs some 10 lbs with scope. At 42 inches it's not particularly long nor heavy. It handles extremely well even in the roughest country. I hunt squirrel, deer, and turkey with this firearm. I'm considering trying out duck hunting tho I haven't committed yet. I'm thinking I'll start shooting some clays this summer. Why not? Drillings are expensive, hard to work on, and are unusual. However, they are also extremely versatile. I used to have a closet full of firearms. No more. Drillings aren't for everyone but they certainly are for me. |
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Post by bushog on Dec 30, 2014 13:01:57 GMT -5
Buy a Blaser BBF97. They are over/under guns that you can actually get additional barrels for. Double rifle or rifle/shotgun combos.
I have one with 222/20ga, 9.3x74/12ga and 30.06/30.06.
The double rifle barrels are adjustable for elevation so you can pick a load.
JMHO
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Post by fanofthefortyone on Dec 30, 2014 15:28:20 GMT -5
I've got a 12x12x30-30 (the 12 gauge is 2-1-2") made by Sauer for Daly. Bought it recently to scratch the itch for one. I like it, fun squirrel gun. Ronnie    This phot is from the guy I bought it from  |
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Post by dutch on Dec 30, 2014 15:48:25 GMT -5
I hunt squirrel with mine as well. I fully understand why combination guns aren't popular with the majority of folks but some of the complaints about them really seem specious to me.
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Post by oregon45 on Dec 31, 2014 0:05:46 GMT -5
I've got a 12x12x30-30 (the 12 gauge is 2-1-2") made by Sauer for Daly. Bought it recently to scratch the itch for one. I like it, fun squirrel gun. Ronnie This phot is from the guy I bought it from Seems I've seen that picture before in "Rifle" or "Handloader" magazine. If so, you bought from one of the best guys in the business. |
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Post by fanofthefortyone on Dec 31, 2014 0:41:53 GMT -5
It was in one of them,he was a pleasure to do business with.
Ronnie
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Post by seak89 on Dec 31, 2014 16:58:25 GMT -5
I have used a enjoy them a lot. If you want lighter there are some nice capeguns out there.
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