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Post by magnumwheelman on Sept 21, 2016 14:30:57 GMT -5
MRS dad's cousin stopped by yesterday, from South Carolina... unannounced... it was great to see him, he is a retired armorer from the Army... we had a good talk yesterday, but not long enough to get into gun stuff... but since MRS was not home ( out of town ) they came back today for brunch... this gave me time to rethink about one of my errors of my youth... FIL had a Garand, when he died ( & I didn't have a milsurp collection at the time ) as a beginning shooter, I found it easier top hit things at distance, as a newbie when they had scopes ( even put scopes on several handguns )... as I learned how to shoot better, & as I started my Milsurp collection, I wanted to pull the B Square no drill mount & scope off the Garand, & put the peep sight back on... problem was, I couldn't find the original bolt to adjust the sight after 10-12 years... so when I went home at lunch today, they were still there, I asked FIL Cousin about a sight for that rifle ( the Grand & M-14 are his generation of rifles ) he said he had a box back home that had several National Match rear sights in it, & he said I could have one??? hope he remembers, as I had been wanting to get this rifle back to original condition...
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Post by nicholst55 on Sept 30, 2016 17:03:55 GMT -5
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Post by nolongcolt on Sept 30, 2016 18:33:24 GMT -5
Every shooter should have at least one M1. I got started in NRA High Power using one and continued to use it in prone matches even after I went to an M1A Super Match for my course rifle. I have a DCM H&R that shipped to my house with a new barrel on it! Had it now for nearly 30 years. They are neat rifles, glad you have one.
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Post by rjm52 on Oct 10, 2016 8:09:06 GMT -5
A friend who has long since passed on had a small collection of very "unusual" Garands... If the hole looks a little small it is because it was one of ten .22-06s made by Springfield Armory back in the 1950s when the Army was looking for a more effective and lighter recoiling round... He also had a presentation grade gun whose number was all the same digit... And for those who remember the Pedersen Devise for the 1903 Spriingfield, Pedersen was employed by SA at the same time Garand was. My friend knew both men. He also got one of the few Pedersen rifles that were made in competition with the Garand..it had a toggle action somewhat like a Luger... I had a picture of an experimental optical rear sight for the Garand about the size of some of the electronic rear sights they have today but apparently have lost it... Bob
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Post by squawberryman on Oct 10, 2016 18:55:38 GMT -5
RJM those are yours sir? Holy free-holy what treasures!
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Post by rjm52 on Oct 10, 2016 20:00:55 GMT -5
No..wish they were...
I saw one of .22-06s sell on AuctionArms about 2011 for something like $1500....it went so cheap because no one knew how rare they are. My friend said there were a total of 20 made. Ten had barrels made to handle a single bullet and ten more for a duplex load. There was also to be a third gun that was to shoot a flachette load. No guns were ever made but my friend had one of the barrels and a couple of the rounds...as well as a few rounds of the single bullet and duplex loads...
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Post by awp101 on Oct 10, 2016 21:43:06 GMT -5
And for those who remember the Pedersen Devise for the 1903 Spriingfield, Pedersen was employed by SA at the same time Garand was. My friend knew both men. He also got one of the few Pedersen rifles that were made in competition with the Garand..it had a toggle action somewhat like a Luger... I think this will be of interest for those that haven't seen one of these in action:
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 10, 2016 23:31:12 GMT -5
Good footage of the Petersen knee lock in action. Notice the bounce as the bolt slams into battery. These were all exposed actions, for which John Garand's stick ruled the roost. All sorts of criticism has been advanced against the M1, nearly all of it after the fact. Nevertheless, the M1 Garand is an EXPOSED ACTION, subject crap falling out of the sky. Equipment can be maddening when the chips are down. Browning gave his .45 auto a little looseness. Kalashnikov likewise. Against all comers John Garand built a true service rifle. That was back in the butt stroke days. Folks born tomorrow may not discern this facet of the equation intrinsic to the M1: accuracy with power.
A National Match M1 is a beautiful instrument. Proving that a barrel attached to a self-loading mechanism can shoot very straight indeed. The service sights continue to this day a beauty of the M1 Garand. One inch clicks, perfect for fast simple calculation. The National Match refinement refines click value to one-half inch or so. If you want to have 'em, get 'em. Meanwhile, back in the jungle, the old 1-inch clicks compliment the grand Garand. Strange, an obsolete rifle so special. David Bradshaw
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Post by magnumwheelman on Oct 11, 2016 6:07:47 GMT -5
I'm really a bolt action kinda guy, but do have a M1 Carbine, a Garand & that new fangled .308... that's where my personal collection stops... all my milsurps have wood you should have seen the smile on FIL's cousins face when I brought up my 30-40 Krag carbine... his face was beaming... said he'd never handled one before... I suppose as a military armorer he'd only dealt with the current rifles in service & the Krag was well out of service before he started
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