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Post by Markbo on Sept 1, 2016 13:45:23 GMT -5
I hwve gone through a supply of 9mm ammo I have had. After getting one o the new Ruger 1911 lightweight commander in 9mm I am goin to be shooting a lot more. Until I get set up to reload it I was thinking about 1,000 box available all over the place.
My question is which one do you use for pracice the most? 115gr, 125gr or 147gr? Theyre all FMJ and when it is broken in my carry load will be a 125gr or 147gr SD load depending on accuracy and reliability. +P? Maybe.
So in the meantime is 115gr OK to practice or should I stick with a heavier bullet?
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Post by magnumwheelman on Sept 1, 2016 14:01:56 GMT -5
I actually like the 124's for my CCW load... & use 124's for practice ( just to insure perfect function with repetition in that weight of bullet... the small difference in price between 115's & 124's is worth it to me, for muscle memory & confirmation of perfect function
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Post by JSilva on Sept 1, 2016 14:08:50 GMT -5
In my bottom feeders, I go 124 grain American Eagle. On the occasion I feed factory to my S&W 929, it's very consistent with 115 American Eagle.
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Post by JM on Sept 1, 2016 14:29:36 GMT -5
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Post by ryan on Sept 1, 2016 19:54:45 GMT -5
I shoot a ton of the AE 124gr. ball mentioned above simply because that's what my department provides us with. However, for practice I don't see much, if any, difference with the 115gr.
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Post by nolongcolt on Sept 1, 2016 20:03:05 GMT -5
Been shooting some Blazer Brass 124 FMJ that I snagged a few boxes of, shoots well and good reloadable brass. Almost out now of course! Nosler 115 JHP bullets are not too pricey and shoot well in my STAR BM and going to try them in my new CZ too.
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Post by Markbo on Sept 2, 2016 3:36:07 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. Freedom munitions is not far from me. I will swing by there and pick up some 124 fmj and 124 hp to see how my guns like them, then pick up a case of whatever they shoot best
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 4, 2016 13:05:59 GMT -5
The local IDPA boys, Who happen to be actual REAL rocket scientists, say that when they calculate the recoil energy of the 147 loaded to the IDPA required power level it is less than the 115 or 125. Me? I haven't a clue about a 9mm. Can say that my 38 Super recoils like a 22 with the 147 loaded to paper punching speeds....
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Post by awp101 on Sept 4, 2016 14:59:17 GMT -5
Local place has had Blazer 115g brass case 9mm for $85/350 rds in a plastic ammo can. I bought 2 cans to break in the G19 and AR. I've only fired 45 rds so far but it seems to be worth it for practice ammo.
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Post by dougader on Sept 11, 2016 13:14:54 GMT -5
Only because I like the brass best, I used to go with the basic USA Winchester white box bulk ammo.
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Post by Markbo on Sept 30, 2016 19:53:31 GMT -5
Just a little update. Took my Ruger lightweight commander 9mm back to the range to test 3 loads to narrow downbwhich one I woild buy a case of. Unfortunately I left the ammo sitting in the garage. DOH!
So I migjt as well shoot up what I have. I had about 1/2 box of Winchester white box 115gr fmj. About 3rd mag in I get PHISSS... a squib! I kept it pointed downrange and waited for the smoke to finish dribbling out. Dropped the mag, racked the slide and thank goodness a loaded round came out!
Minus the primer. I locked the slide open to peer inside but couldn't see well there in the shade so I walked to the back of the line into the sunshine. Peering in I saw a round shiney piece sitting on the little shelf under the barrel ramp a round shiney piece - completely flat - with a mark in the middle, but not a hole. Turned it over and shook into my hand that piece of the primer and another piece - a very thin ring, just the size of the od of the flat piece.
Huh. Racked the slide several times, looked into the barrel and the action and could see nothing. Loaded the same mag tbat had one round in it. Chambered and shot. Loaded a few other mags and all was well. When I got home I removed the bullet from the case and there was no charred/burned powder but there was 2 tiny tiny threads of brass. SUPER thin wnd only 2-3mm long.
Gun looks and works fine. No other empties that I examined had anything looking like heavt primer strike or too long firing pin so just a one off sqib. Darned good thing I wasnt doing a double tap or anything.
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 1, 2016 8:01:55 GMT -5
Just a little update. Took my Ruger lightweight commander 9mm back to the range to test 3 loads to narrow downbwhich one I woild buy a case of. Unfortunately I left the ammo sitting in the garage. DOH! So I migjt as well shoot up what I have. I had about 1/2 box of Winchester white box 115gr fmj. About 3rd mag in I get PHISSS... a squib! I kept it pointed downrange and waited for the smoke to finish dribbling out. Dropped the mag, racked the slide and thank goodness a loaded round came out! Minus the primer. I locked the slide open to peer inside but couldn't see well there in the shade so I walked to the back of the line into the sunshine. Peering in I saw a round shiney piece sitting on the little shelf under the barrel ramp a round shiney piece - completely flat - with a mark in the middle, but not a hole. Turned it over and shook into my hand that piece of the primer and another piece - a very thin ring, just the size of the od of the flat piece. Huh. Racked the slide several times, looked into the barrel and the action and could see nothing. Loaded the same mag tbat had one round in it. Chambered and shot. Loaded a few other mags and all was well. When I got home I removed the bullet from the case and there was no charred/burned powder but there was 2 tiny tiny threads of brass. SUPER thin wnd only 2-3mm long. Gun looks and works fine. No other empties that I examined had anything looking like heavt primer strike or too long firing pin so just a one off sqib. Darned good thing I wasnt doing a double tap or anything. *** Sounds like there's no FLASH HOLE in the case. Or, are these rounds Berdan primed, with a nipple in the primer pocket serving as the anvil? You do not mention finding a little "star"----the separate anvil of a Boxer primer. Absence of flash hole (Boxer) or multiple holes (Berdan) is an extreme rarity in commercial ammunition, and most shooters will finish their lives without encountering one. A careful bandleader shooting his or her ammo will never experience a case which missed this critical manufacturing step. If "squib" includes any grossly underpowered load in which the primer fires, I reckon the blind primer pocket qualifies. David Bradshaw
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Post by AxeHandle on Oct 1, 2016 16:38:59 GMT -5
We routinely see cartridges with no flash hole, primers in all sorts of orientations and even loaded cartridges with no extractor rim. The "no rim" case might fire okay but it doesn't extract well. This is not imported stuff either. All the big boys put out a few. Squibs? Yup.. The big boys turn them out too..
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Post by Markbo on Oct 1, 2016 17:22:30 GMT -5
David there was no star found. I had a chance to take a closer look. Looking down from inside there was a single hole, but a bright brass piece apoeared from the primer pocket. Looking from outside it was solid, rounded - like there was no hole formed and totally smudged. So I used a punch and out popped what appears to be a primer base installed backwards. So the primer that went off had a solid base in front of it, thus no fire into the cartridge.
That is a first for me!
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Post by JM on Oct 1, 2016 18:58:07 GMT -5
I've actually heard of this once before.
Cannot tell you which I'net forum, when it happened, or what type of ammo it was. Just remember reading a post many years ago, about a factory loaded centerfire handgun round that had the primer seated upside down.
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