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Post by jimtx on Sept 11, 2016 17:47:48 GMT -5
NYS DEC used to say we didn't have them, even after all the sightings, farm animals lost, etc. Reclassing an animal is probably a good reason for denial. But I lke TX's stance if it is not indigenous, it's open season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get her done, Me and my wife just 2 nights ago heard a big cat either a large bobcat or young panther, coming from one of our lower hay fields. Cool to hear them, but if I see it, it will be mounted
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Post by cas on Sept 11, 2016 22:58:31 GMT -5
Yep NY says we don't have them. Until you show them photos. Then they say they're "released pets". Apparently we have the highest population of pet mountain lions in the world.
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Post by buckheart on Oct 2, 2016 20:20:25 GMT -5
Talked to a local excavation contractor that I hire to maintain the road up to our camp last week. He lives about a mile down the road and one of his main hobbies is raising elk. He has about 25 animals at this point and says that he lost an elk calf this past spring in a 15 acre game fenced area. He just about turned the parcel upside down looking for the calf and never found it. About 2 weeks ago a neighbor close to him saw one of those "released pets" stalking around behind their house. He is thinking that maybe the big cat got the calf in the spring. Either way when guys start loosing live stock they will do what they have to do to protect their financial interests.
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Post by jimtx on Oct 2, 2016 22:03:10 GMT -5
Yep NY says we don't have them. Until you show them photos. Then they say they're "released pets". Apparently we have the highest population of pet mountain lions in the world.
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Post by cas on Oct 6, 2016 16:47:34 GMT -5
He lives about a mile down the road and one of his main hobbies is raising elk. Can I ask where this is?
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Post by DiamondD on Nov 23, 2016 0:39:07 GMT -5
If I was getting an animal to put in with sheep and did not went to go with an embedded guard dog, I would go with donkey. I think they have an even strong sense of territory and self preservation than a mule and may well mix with the sheep better. I'll second the recommendation of a guard donkey. My cousin has some miniature donkeys and one of them got his blue heeler down and about killed her before he could run it off. The heeler was trying to herd the donkeys and one decided it needed to go. I've got a buddy that runs thousands of sheep and he puts a donkey in with every flock. Dean
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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 28, 2016 7:21:25 GMT -5
well... you guys are convincing about the donkeys... my pastures are metal cattle panels ( like a hog panel but 48" tall ) & I've been lining them with sections of chain link fence I pick up from the scrap guy... ( chain link keeps the chickens in, if I want to run them into the pasture ) & would keep a yote or a small lamb, from going through the bigger squares of panel ( though I have no doubt a yote could jump over a 4' fence panel )... & to keep this on track... I'm sure a mountain lion would have no trouble jumping a 48" fence... though I still think most would not want to tackle a group of 400 lb hogs, that are in runs, 3/4 of the way around our front pasture... I know my outside doggie didn't used to be afraid of them, but he really wanted to go see the sheep, just after we got them & could easily jump the 36" hog panels... but the pigs let him know he was not welcome in their pen... he let out a good yelp, & hasn't been back in the hog pen again
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