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Post by arokcrwlr on Apr 5, 2016 15:44:22 GMT -5
I've been busier than a one-toothed man in a corn-on-the-cob eating contest, but I was able to break away from work for a day a spend some time on the rifle range with my 308 specialty pistol. It was a beautiful day in Georgia and I had the range to myself for most of the morning with it being a week day. I normally shoot in my backyard, but if I want to stretch out, I head to the gun club that I am a member of about an hour from home. They have excellent accommodations and it's a great place to spend a day. I have not started load development yet, so factory Winchester ammo was used. Spent half a box getting on paper and making some adjustments and then went straight to 100 yards. For the first time out with this pistol and considering that I was using cheap factory ammo, I was pleased. Having the range to myself allowed me to take my time, shoot, examine targets, etc. and not be concerned about other shooters. Here's my 5 shot 100yd target after a few get acquainted shots... Here's a 200yd target, again after a few initial shots - I held ~3" higher than my 100yd POA...pleasantly similar to the 100yd grouping. And a shot down range...the furthest burm is at 400yds A couple other shooters showed up about the time I was finishing up at 200, so I did not shoot much more on the rifle range. I will stretch it out to 300/400 yds the next time I'm there. Overall, I am very pleased with the build and performance. I believe with some load development and more trigger time, I will be able to shrink the groups. I have no doubt that the gun is capable of sub-moa groups out to 400+ yds.
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Post by cmh on Apr 5, 2016 16:01:26 GMT -5
Gonna sound stupid here but qhat kind of gun is that.... im not recognizing it. Looks like your shooting it well
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Post by cherokeetracker on Apr 5, 2016 18:59:37 GMT -5
arokcrwir I have been waiting on this and and I am very happy for you. I do like the looks of those targets. I do not remember what twist you have, Is the 1-12? We used to try the Federal Match ammo in rifles to compare the accuracy. But that is cost prohibitive now. But one load that has always been good for me, (and I do mean in several rifles) is the 165-168 grain bullets with 46.0 grains of Varget. It is a compressed load, but it is in the books as such. I always use the 210M Federal primer. For hunting I have had a lot of good results with the Nosler Partition. I have used the 168 Sierra Match just for Target purposes to see what I can do at longer distances. The 125 seems to be pretty good for coyotes, even though it is a little bit of overkill. But Who cares, I go after them with what ever I feel like carrying that day. W 748 and H4895 have been the best in the smaller pills. IMR 4895, was not as good, and I have also used Benchmark, 8208, IMR 4064, and 4350 in some heavier stuff. That is the beauty of the 308 is is quite versatile and is not overly particular of what you feed it. I have had good luck with the cheapest Winchester ammo. You have one fine looking range to play at. You are going to be happy with this fine pistol I believe. Thank You for the Range Report.
Charles
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Post by arokcrwlr on Apr 5, 2016 20:22:58 GMT -5
cmh, that is a good question - no need to feel otherwise. It is a 308 Win pistol built on a virgin Remington 700 short action. All the machine work for the barreled action was done by a Georgia rifle builder a few hours south of me at the recommendation of a fellow forum member. It is bolted in a slightly modified lightweight rifle chassis (MDT LSS). 14" match barrel with a APA Fat Bastard brake. The brake really does a great job of taming the recoil. The scope is a Leupold 4.5x14x50AO.
Charles, the barrel twist is 1:10. When the gunsmith and I were discussing the project, I told him to chamber the action with 165 gr bullets in mind. I have several hundred Bergers on the way and 8lbs of Varget which will be the starting point for my load work. I have read good things using this combination with the bullets seated a couple of thousandths from the lands. I appreciate your insight on the 308 as this is my first gun chambered for it. I do look forward to playing with it. So far I am really liking how it turned out. If anything, it could use a little more heft to keep movement down after the shot, but it's all a compromise as I don't want a 20 lb pistol either. Thanks again...
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Post by cmh on Apr 5, 2016 20:43:38 GMT -5
Cool factor!!!!
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Post by cherokeetracker on Apr 5, 2016 23:14:52 GMT -5
arokcrwir Having that 1-10 twist is going to be really beneficial. I did not wan to mention Bergers, till I learned of the twist but it sounds like you Had a plan, and now you are working your plan. You are ahead of me on the mention of the COAL and leade. No crimp I would imagine. It sounds great what you have shared with us. I was thinking shooting some lighter bullets might help with that recoil. I was looking at that platform, wondering if somehow a (mule) mercury tube, might be added... I agree with NOT adding weight. Did you get a BDC or a Varmint Reticle? or just go with the Duplex? Oh I was going to mention if you do play with some lighter bullets the Barnes TTSX 110 has been good for some of the guys. Hornady has some GMX in 110 but I have not tried them yet. Just so you know, Reloader 15 is right there by Varget, It is not temp sensitive either. But of course as you know, if you do go lighter bullets, then you will want to change powders.
That is one cool gun,,,
Charles
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Post by cddogfan1 on Apr 6, 2016 18:28:04 GMT -5
cmh, that is a good question - no need to feel otherwise. It is a 308 Win pistol built on a virgin Remington 700 short action. All the machine work for the barreled action was done by a Georgia rifle builder a few hours south of me at the recommendation of a fellow forum member. It is bolted in a slightly modified lightweight rifle chassis (MDT LSS). 14" match barrel with a APA Fat Bastard brake. The brake really does a great job of taming the recoil. The scope is a Leupold 4.5x14x50AO. Charles, the barrel twist is 1:10. When the gunsmith and I were discussing the project, I told him to chamber the action with 165 gr bullets in mind. I have several hundred Bergers on the way and 8lbs of Varget which will be the starting point for my load work. I have read good things using this combination with the bullets seated a couple of thousandths from the lands. I appreciate your insight on the 308 as this is my first gun chambered for it. I do look forward to playing with it. So far I am really liking how it turned out. If anything, it could use a little more heft to keep movement down after the shot, but it's all a compromise as I don't want a 20 lb pistol either. Thanks again... Did you wind up getting Joe Collier to do it.
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Post by arokcrwlr on Apr 6, 2016 19:48:53 GMT -5
Yes I did - thank you for the recommendation. He knows his stuff and was great to work with.
Funny thing is, I live 5 min from American Precision Arms and they would not work on it. I know that they used to work on Remington actions, but now they make their own actions and I guess they don't want to work on anything else. Too bad for me as it sure would have been nice to get it done locally. However, I have no regrets working with Joe - he does good work.
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