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Post by CraigC on Feb 29, 2016 15:28:22 GMT -5
I don't think the one manufacturer argument holds water. No matter if Ruger was the only source, rest assured, it is "mass produced".
I think there are wildcats, there are legitimized factory cartridges and then there's a broad grey area in between. Personally, I think the availability of properly head stamped brass precludes the wildcat designation. A wildcat in its purest sense, would fit into the parameters set above by EDK.
Long obsolete cartridges, no matter how obscure, if they were once readily available in any quantity, can never be considered a wildcat. Even if you have to form cases from something else.
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Post by dougader on Feb 29, 2016 16:55:04 GMT -5
I'm thinking about the 338-06. It was a wildcat for many years until Weatherby, of all companies, came along and made rifles and ammunition. A-Square got the cartridge approved through the SAAMI process so now it's listed as 338-06 A-Square.
But try and find a new rifle that a blue collar gent can afford. Same for cases and ammo. It's like everything is in collector status now.
Every case I have is necked up from 30-06 brass. The Savage 110 has been rebarreled with a 338-06 chambered number. I love the round, but doubt I'll ever buy cases or ammo for it.
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Feb 29, 2016 18:43:15 GMT -5
A lot of good stuff being tossed around here and I really appreciate the ideas being shared. There's definitely a grey area here and where it starts and ends is very dependent on the individual's perspective.
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Post by sixshot on Feb 29, 2016 20:18:45 GMT -5
Aw yes, the 338/06, my son built me one many, many years ago on a 98 Mauser action & a Douglas barrel I think.
Using either the 210 Nolser Partition or the Hornady 225 gr SP it was one dandy elk rifle, just as good as any of the big magnums, just a bit less range but I never noticed & neither did the elk. Dang it!
Dick
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Post by mart on Mar 4, 2016 0:36:30 GMT -5
I shoot and load for a 400 Whelen and 6mmx222 both of which are definitely wildcats. I also shoot and load for the 25 Remington, 401 Powermag and 10.75x57, none of which has factory ammo or brass available and precious little loading data. I guess once a round gets to the point that no brass or ammo is available it is essentially a wildcat.
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Post by ddixie884 on Mar 6, 2016 18:26:25 GMT -5
Where does that leave the .41spl?
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Post by dougader on Mar 8, 2016 9:25:46 GMT -5
Aw yes, the 338/06, my son built me one many, many years ago on a 98 Mauser action & a Douglas barrel I think. Using either the 210 Nolser Partition or the Hornady 225 gr SP it was one dandy elk rifle, just as good as any of the big magnums, just a bit less range but I never noticed & neither did the elk. Dang it! Dick A Douglas barrel, eh? That's what mine needs... to go along with my first name.  Dixie: AFAIK, there's no ammo produced for 41 Special, no SAAMI designation, brass - as you know well - is a custom order proposition, as are guns for the cartridge. Sounds like a wildcat to me! |
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