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Post by cherokeetracker on Aug 31, 2015 13:01:46 GMT -5
Joe That's good shooting. I would not touch those sights. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Joe S. on Aug 31, 2015 19:03:28 GMT -5
Thanks yall. Lot of good shooters on this forum! Has been an inspiration to me to tighten up. Cant seem to get good with my 45's but the 357's shoot almost like lazers...
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 1, 2015 19:32:28 GMT -5
Joe S.... for whatever reason, the .45 Colt seems more load-sensitive than its case-length children, the .357, .41, and .44 magnums. Then again, the .45 Colt has been the victim of specification shenanigans in chamber & bore. Whereas the established magnums have suffered over their younger lives far less abuse. Specification slop is correctable, however, and does not explain the ,45 Colt's more accuracy-sensitive nature in a properly dimensioned revolver. You can throw almost anything at the .357, .41, and .44 and get them to shoot. No so the Colt round. (The .357 Maximum its own self is a pretty forgiving round.)
In recent conversations with Bill Fowler and Lee Martin I allowed as to how no revolver with the barrel torqued on by Gorilla Monsoon has a chance in a silhouette match. There are some things you just can't get away with, a compression ring one of 'em. Four major elements must be sorted to realize accuracy at longer ranger:
1) intrinsic accuracy of revolver.
2) intrinsic accuracy of bullet.
3) accuracy of load.
4) consistent sighting and squeeze of the shooter, i.e. technique to match BARREL TIME of bullet to GRIP.
David Bradshaw
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Post by Squatch on Sept 1, 2015 21:47:27 GMT -5
David, I have learned more about how to shoot a revolver from reading your posts than any other source. The tip on eye focus and oxygen has been the best thing for my shooting, especially at distance. I have been practicing at 50 to 85 yards and have seen steady improvement every outing. Thank you!
Matthew
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Post by Ranger499 on Sept 1, 2015 22:06:56 GMT -5
I'm determined to get to the range and add to this thread after stumbling upon it. Just an OUTSTANDING education on how to go long with your handgun from page 1.
Thanks to Lee and Bradshaw for sharing.
B
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Post by deertracker on Sept 2, 2015 9:51:25 GMT -5
I am also looking forward to eventually trying this challenge. First task is to actully find time to go shoot in between getting off work at the school and doing homework at home! I hate not having time for my hobbies! Such is life I guess. Have to make money in order to go play!
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Post by cmillard on Sept 2, 2015 10:43:24 GMT -5
I will definitely do this once I get my house built and my reloading bench put back up.
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 3, 2015 8:52:46 GMT -5
Squatch.... thank you for the kind words. To shoot straight one must breathe. To shoot straight makes breathing worthwhile. Oxygen clears mind and eyes. No match shooter gets anywhere muffing the sights or muffing the squeeze. If this does not explain the value of dry fire I am at a loss to do better. The eye LOOKS, the mind SEES. Marksmanship replaces abstraction with a specific architecture to own the bullet.
David Bradshaw
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Post by serialsolver on Sept 3, 2015 18:20:07 GMT -5
I tried the challenge today with a glock 27 shooting 40 cal 180gr steel case Russian ammo with the outside mirror of my f350 for a rest. I had warmed up with 20 rounds and toward the end I was regularly hitting the steel. I got 11 rounds on the steel with 3 edgers.  So I turned the steel around for the challenge of ten rounds and the hits went away. Only 4 rounds on steel. I lost the mental sight picture and the tremors entered my hand and forearm.  Oh well, back to practicing. |
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Post by seancass on Sept 3, 2015 20:21:20 GMT -5
Well, I gave this a shot tonight, but I can't say I have anything to brag about. This was my first and only 5 shots from the FA 454 at 100 yards. Load was 335gr Leadheads over a dose of H110. The pattern came out at 8.5" tall by 4" wide. Maybe a couple dozen more groups and I would have had something better! Apparently I need more front sight, I was aiming at 6 o'clock on the target below, so roughly 2-feet high at 100 yards.  Edited to add: The gun, standard issue FA M83. Gun rested on a cheap (Caldwell?) rest with jeans on it. Jeans were watered down shortly into the range session to keep them from catching fire. I was kneeling behind the bench with forearms resting on the back. Trying hard to keep elbows off the bench! I was pushing the gun hard into the rest for stability and the web of my right hand paid the price. Not a friendly position for recoil management.  |
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Post by Joe S. on Sept 3, 2015 21:47:15 GMT -5
"Needing more front sight"
My Rugers have that problem often...
Thats a good group compared to my first 100 yard "pattern"!
Keep at it. Only get better by practicing. I am proof of that!
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Post by nockhunter on Sept 4, 2015 2:15:58 GMT -5
I think some people here are missing the point, the challenge is 5 hits on a 10" paper plate at 100y.
Mike
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Post by seancass on Sept 4, 2015 6:06:19 GMT -5
I think some people here are missing the point, the challenge is 5 hits on a 10" paper plate at 100y. Mike Sarcasm is hard on the internet, so pick the correct reply from the choices provided below: Haha! Yeah right! Or You're completely wrong, please reread the first post in this thread a few times and then come back and post your 100 yard target! The Point of this thread was Get your hands off the keyboard and onto a gripframe and do some actual shooting! Lee does specify a target less than 12" wide. In my case, I deviated because it's what I had and I thought I might need it. Properly sighted in, my above group would have landed on a plate, in theory. |
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Post by rjm52 on Sept 4, 2015 8:23:01 GMT -5
"Jeans were watered down shortly into the range session to keep them from catching fire."
...could have been worse...you could have been wearing them...
"Apparently I need more front sight, I was aiming at 6 o'clock on the target below, so roughly 2-feet high at 100 yards."
..at least with the FAs guns the front sight is easy to replace.... If you get serious into this figure out how tall a front sight you need, send the ofiginal to Davis Clements and he will make you one of his Long Range semi-Patridge front blades with hold-over bars...
Bob
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Post by nockhunter on Sept 4, 2015 21:20:45 GMT -5
I think some people here are missing the point, the challenge is 5 hits on a 10" paper plate at 100y. Mike Sarcasm is hard on the internet, so pick the correct reply from the choices provided below: Haha! Yeah right! Or You're completely wrong, please reread the first post in this thread a few times and then come back and post your 100 yard target! The Point of this thread was Get your hands off the keyboard and onto a gripframe and do some actual shooting! Lee does specify a target less than 12" wide. In my case, I deviated because it's what I had and I thought I might need it. Properly sighted in, my above group would have landed on a plate, in theory.   Something like this, dude you need to get thicker skin, I wasn't targeting you personally, and I'm not trying to start anything. I just think shooting at a big backstop and the quoting a group size, is not the same as shooting at a specific target and hitting it multiple times. Kinda like shooting at a deer at 100y and hitting him in the hams just to say "but look a 3" group" when aiming for the boiler room. Mike 7.5" Bisley 45 Colt 255g tru flite cast swc 24g W296 CCI mag primer 10.5 Super blackhawk 44mag 240g master cast swc 23g W296 CCI mag primer All shot at 100y open sights at 9" paper plates. Six shots fired at each plate. Four best plates pulled from pile. Most other plates 2-4 hits. |
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