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Post by 17tombstone on Jan 24, 2015 15:54:00 GMT -5
I did a bunch of reading online before picking out my new in the brush elk gun and ended up with a 1895SBL Remlin. I was really concerned about quality due to noise on the web but I have never had a stock lever gun shoot like this one. It does have the WW happy trigger, extractor and follower. Thought I would share first handloads out of the gun as I was sighting in. Pretty excited to say the least. Flyer still sighting in 3 shot clover  2 more shots with 2 more grains of 3031  3 more shots with an additional 2 grains  |
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 24, 2015 22:30:14 GMT -5
17 tombstone.... aside from being mighty glad your stick shoots beyond expectation, permit this observation:
* 1895 SSBL"----Model 1895 Stainless Steel Browning Lever rifle.
* Made by "Remlin."
* Photo accumulation of shots:
a) unknown cartridge.
b) unknown load.
c) unknown range to target.
d) unknown feeding qualities from magazine.
e) "it does have the ww happy trigger, extractor and follower"----?
Note: "ww" for the past century spells Winchester-Western, a major ammunition manufacturer.
I half-think your rifle is a Marlin made at a Remington factory, details an utter mystery.
David Bradshaw
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Post by zac0419 on Jan 25, 2015 0:21:37 GMT -5
I'll solve some of the mystery. WW is "Wild West". They make aftermarket stuff for Marlins. It's a 45/70.
I too want to know the distance to target and load.
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Post by 17tombstone on Jan 25, 2015 7:23:06 GMT -5
I guess in haste left out some crucial info. The range was 50 yards and the rifle is wearing a Leupold scout scope. Using new starline brass, Fed LR primer and IMR 3031 with a HDY 350gr JRN. The final shot shows a range of 6 grains of powder as I was in testing mode. I started at 50gr and velocity ranged from 1520-1730. I think there is still some room according to Hodgdons web site. Hope that answered a few questions and I did feed each string of shots through the magazine during shooting exercise.
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Post by zac0419 on Jan 25, 2015 8:48:27 GMT -5
That's a great shooting lever you have there.
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Post by jgt on Jan 25, 2015 12:20:27 GMT -5
I would not make a habit of using those round nosed bullet in a tube magazine.
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Post by crazycarl on Jan 25, 2015 12:55:07 GMT -5
I would not make a habit of using those round nosed bullet in a tube magazine. Why? They don't look any different than the 150gr JSPs that millions of us have run through our .30-30s over the years. Spitzers I understand the concern, RN, not so much. |
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Post by bagdadjoe on Jan 26, 2015 9:05:27 GMT -5
Well...I understand your excitement. So you skipped the $$$ "JR" surcharge and still got a shooter?  |
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Post by taffin on Jan 26, 2015 17:01:35 GMT -5
I would not make a habit of using those round nosed bullet in a tube magazine. Why? They don't look any different than the 150gr JSPs that millions of us have run through our .30-30s over the years. Spitzers I understand the concern, RN, not so much. THERE IS A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE IN RECOIL BETWEEN A .30-30 AND A .45-70. THE RN .45-70 COULD SET OFF THE CARTRIDGE IN FRONT OF IT. |
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Post by txwildcatter on Jan 28, 2015 20:57:54 GMT -5
I've had excellent results with 3031 and RE7 in my JM guide gun with 350 HP and bulk remmy 405's. With a 4x luepold it'll cloverleaf them at 100 as long as the operator doesn't foul up the shot. I run mid level loads in mine and never saw a need to hot rod it with the accuracy I get. Good luck with the new toy.
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Post by nolongcolt on Jan 28, 2015 23:16:37 GMT -5
i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii596/Scott3840/IMG_1101.jpgReading above about potential magazine set off in the Marlin got me thinking. I sort of was poo-pooing the idea as well, but got some samples out and took a pic. As you can on the left is the bullet in question (350gr RN) and on the right is the same bullet in a flat nose. Now while I still think it somewhat unlikely that the RN would set of the primer in front of it, you can see in the pic that if all the stars aligned it would be possible whereas on the flat nose bullet, no way. Use of a harder primer like the CCI 200 might obviate some of the danger. Interesting. A little more research in the Hornady manual shows that the use of the RN bullet is neither mentioned as a potential problem nor its use discouraged in tube feed lever rifles in .45-70 or .450 Marlin of which I now realize I have been shooting said RN bullet for some time in my Marlin MR .450M with no issues. Not to say it wont ever happen but one might think that Hornady might discourage or warn against its use if they felt there was even the slightest possibility of a problem using their components. Food for thought.
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Post by axman on Jan 29, 2015 10:15:06 GMT -5
You could always put a small flat on them by setting one in a reloading press and bumping it against a flat block to create a small flat on nose.
Not much pressure just until it touches block and then bump handle down.
Works nicely.
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Post by nolongcolt on Jan 29, 2015 11:32:53 GMT -5
Sure, or a couple swipes with a file even.
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Post by 17tombstone on Jan 30, 2015 19:11:53 GMT -5
Guys thanks for all of the feedback and you got me nervous with the RN bullets. I have a printed Hornady manual and it has a section for 1895 marlin and calls out the 350RN in the loading data. I will also follow up with a call to Hornady just to be safe. Thanks
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