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Post by Thumper on Dec 6, 2014 9:11:07 GMT -5
I've been hunting with a .444 Marlin T/C Contender for a few years now and really like the cartridge. Even in a 14" pistol barrel I can shoot three shot groups around 1/2 to 1" at 100 yards. I figured if it is that accurate in a pistol at that range, I'd like to try it in a rifle. I have been looking for a bargain on a Marlin 444 for a while, but prices have gone through the roof. I'm sure you can still find them in local shops, but there aren't many around me and on gunbroker the pre-Freedom Group Marlins are going for $1400-$1800. Ridiculous! While searching I found this NIB Winchester built on their Big Bore 94 for well under $700 shipped to my FFL. My goal is to track down a wood stock for it now. The Winchester Timber Carbines almost all came with great looking stocks, but I haven't had any luck locating one of those take-offs.   |
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Post by prisedefer on Dec 8, 2014 22:08:50 GMT -5
You're not going to shoot it 'till you restock it? How can you resist? As is it has a serious, purposeful look about it. Maybe the rifle your guide carries as you stalk Old Ephraim.
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Post by jgt on Dec 9, 2014 10:39:27 GMT -5
Do you know if this is an early model or later model Black Shadow? The first few made were 1/12 twist. Later ones had the 1/20. To check, push a tight fitting patch down the barrel and mark the cleaning rod at the start and finish of a complete rotation. Measure between the marks.
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Post by okie44 on Dec 9, 2014 11:54:28 GMT -5
You done good, another brother to your's. Not a lot of fun at the bench.  |
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Post by Thumper on Dec 9, 2014 17:54:44 GMT -5
Dec 8, 2014 22:08:50 GMT -5 prisedefer said: You're not going to shoot it 'till you restock it? How can you resist? As is it has a serious, purposeful look about it. Maybe the rifle your guide carries as you stalk Old Ephraim. No, I plan to shoot the fire out of it as soon as possible! Do you know if this is an early model or later model Black Shadow? The first few made were 1/12 twist. Later ones had the 1/20. To check, push a tight fitting patch down the barrel and mark the cleaning rod at the start and finish of a complete rotation. Measure between the marks. I don't know, yet. It hasn't even arrived at my FFL. I'll take either twist rate because Winchester's old web page says 1:38 for the Black Shadow. You done good, another brother to your's. Not a lot of fun at the bench. That's a nice looking one! I figure this Black Shadow is bound to be nicer on the bench than my 14" Contender .444!
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Post by okie44 on Dec 9, 2014 20:50:28 GMT -5
[/quote]That's a nice looking one! I figure this Black Shadow is bound to be nicer on the bench than my 14" Contender .444! [/quote] I had one of those one time, not much fun.  |
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Post by tgc on Dec 12, 2014 7:43:54 GMT -5
Those rifles are very nice. One of the nicest features is no Micro Groove!!!
Thumper: You got a steal on your rifle! I don't know why they would even dream of putting a plastic, excuse me, I think they say polymer, stock on such a nice rifle. I would'a bought it anyway for sure. Good buy!
Okie44, question for you and Thumper. These are Winchester rifles. I kind'd have alway thought Winchester levers didn't have a way to mount a scope on them. One reason I've shyed away from them. Okie44's has a nice set of mounts on his rifle. Is that a factory drill and tap, or was that something you had a gunsmith do? I like it.
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Post by okie44 on Dec 12, 2014 8:07:40 GMT -5
Winchester introduced the Angle Eject (AE) model in '83 factory drilled for scope mounts.
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Post by Thumper on Dec 14, 2014 15:33:59 GMT -5
Like okie44 said, they're factory drilled and tapped. I've never had any trouble getting mounts on a 94, I just have thus far always decided to go back to iron sights. I really want to put a low power, small scope on this one, though.
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Post by cable on Dec 16, 2014 11:39:28 GMT -5
Do you know if this is an early model or later model Black Shadow? The first few made were 1/12 twist. Later ones had the 1/20. To check, push a tight fitting patch down the barrel and mark the cleaning rod at the start and finish of a complete rotation. Measure between the marks. and a few of those had an even faster twist......i had one, boy did it shoot well ! unfortunately it went missing [ as the brits say ] during divorce. i liked the synthetic stock.....carried it on my 4 wheeler as bear medicine. sure would like to have it back. you got a great deal. |
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Post by 44Vaqueros on Jan 4, 2015 14:44:04 GMT -5
Nice guns Foks!
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