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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 27, 2014 12:22:59 GMT -5
Dag Nab It! I have been fooling with the 38 Super and light loads for months. The 100% reliability is not there and the accuracy looks to be the pits too. Ten years ago when I first tried to replicate Alan Fulford's 1000FPS 38 Super VV N350 bullseye loads I know that man was looking down laughing about us trying to get that load to shoot. Now running a 115 JHP at about 1200 FPS and the thing is reliable and it shoots. Haven't sand bagged it yet but my off hand targets are easily the equal of my 22 and 45 and both those guns are capable of possibles at 50 yards. Guess I'd better break out the chronograph and start collecting another set of numbers.
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Post by TERRY MURBACH on Jul 27, 2014 15:30:37 GMT -5
HOLY SMOKES, you are planning to use a 38SUP in Bullseye shooting ??!! Why do you not arrange to have your shooting buddies kick you in the shins a couple of times a week as it'll be a LOT less painful.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 27, 2014 16:26:48 GMT -5
Wish I were breaking new ground with the 38 Super in bullseye but it is already a well worn path. You are one of the few here that may have known the late great Allen Fulford. You remember the old gray headed paper puncher from Georgia that showed up at the early years of The Masters and did quite well. Ran with Jim Fulwood and John Farley. Allen was doing marvelous things in Bullseye with a 38 Super before he left us. Right at the end of my military shooting time I got the All National Guard gunsmith to build me one. It is as tight and slick as a dedicated paper puncher should be. I've seen it shoot inside the X ring at 50 yards but with loads with recoil at a level that there was no reason to select it over my 45. My currrent rationale for working with it is that I'd like to continue to shoot and be competitive until I die. Less recoil is better for the health of my hand, wrist, elbow and shoulder. Picked up Walther GSPC and Hammerli 240 32 wadcutter guns but the 38 Super looks like a much simpler path....
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Post by tek4260 on Jul 27, 2014 22:04:06 GMT -5
I thought this was going to be a thread about Cervantes
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Post by TERRY MURBACH on Jul 28, 2014 9:24:26 GMT -5
Wish I were breaking new ground with the 38 Super in bullseye but it is already a well worn path. You are one of the few here that may have known the late great Allen Fulford. You remember the old gray headed paper puncher from Georgia that showed up at the early years of The Masters and did quite well. Ran with Jim Fulwood and John Farley. Allen was doing marvelous things in Bullseye with a 38 Super before he left us. Right at the end of my military shooting time I got the All National Guard gunsmith to build me one. It is as tight and slick as a dedicated paper puncher should be. I've seen it shoot inside the X ring at 50 yards but with loads with recoil at a level that there was no reason to select it over my 45. My currrent rationale for working with it is that I'd like to continue to shoot and be competitive until I die. Less recoil is better for the health of my hand, wrist, elbow and shoulder. Picked up Walther GSPC and Hammerli 240 32 wadcutter guns but the 38 Super looks like a much simpler path.... YESSIRREE, I DID MEET ALLEN FULFORD and gabbed with him quite a bit at THE MASTERS tournament in Quincy IL back in '88, '89' etc. As a matter of fact we spent an entire evenening wondering if ANY IPSC type shooter could ever win the Masters due to the fact most of those fellows could not hit anything smaller than a VW offhand onehand shooting at 50 meters. And right now i cannot remember if Doug Koenig did or did not have a background in Bullseye shooting as he has been a whiz at winning the Masters year after year. As for me I will always be forever grateful for the training Bullseye shooting offered me having grown up thirty miles from Camp Perry; SIGHT ALIGNMENT TRIGGER CONTROL is all there is to it !!! And so it goes...
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