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Post by onegoodshot on Aug 3, 2009 10:19:58 GMT -5
A 38-40 94 Win would have probably been a more practical choice, but who am I to talk practicality to you guys. 19.0gr #9 and a 158gr XTP caught me off guard with its kick. Had to pull my panties up a little. It was a little sticky and I dont know if it was due to fireforming or the load. I'm going to try some 4227, in lighter loads and see if it cycles any better. With a NTM 41 Blackhawk that was too good of a deal to pass on. Suposed to be unfired and had just the faintest hint of a turn line....Until I got it. ;D Need to figure out how to get the light specs off the hammer and I'll be good to go.
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Post by bloodhound on Aug 3, 2009 12:09:35 GMT -5
I STILL LIKE THAT LITTLE CARBINE.....AND YOU GOT A GREAT BUY ON IT......... ;D....
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Post by Tomcatt on Aug 4, 2009 18:13:28 GMT -5
I have a Rossi Mdl '92 like yours except mine has a bronze looking medallion of a puma on the receiver. Mine is 44mag. Do you know how old yours is? I'm trying to figure out the DOB of mine. Tomcatt
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Post by onegoodshot on Aug 5, 2009 6:43:46 GMT -5
I'll email the original owner and see if he can give me some more information. I know he lived close to B&D and had the conversion done on the puma and a blackhawk. He did say that the original medallion was replaced with the coin by B&D.
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Hobie
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Post by Hobie on Aug 20, 2009 7:01:28 GMT -5
There's been a lot of talk on Leverguns forum about the .357 Maximum. It seems to us that the easiest way to get those ballistics in an available levergun would be with the B&D cartridge. I would think that you could get 2000-2100 fps with 180 gr. bullets. But, that might not be possible based on your comments. I'd like to know just what sort of performance you do get.
BTW, I'm going to link this topic back to leverguns. Should be LOTS of interest.
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Hobie
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Post by Hobie on Aug 21, 2009 18:32:37 GMT -5
Glad you posted on leverguns...
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Post by onegoodshot on Aug 30, 2009 7:38:03 GMT -5
Got a 2nd shoot yesterday on the B&D. Hornady 158gr HPBT --------------Encore 15" ----------------Puma 16"
19gr AA#9----1972,1902,1896---left over from first shoot were really sticky in the Puma so I quit
18gr AA#9--1844---------------------1880 -------------1912---------------------1899----sticky and split -------------1896---------------------1907
20gr LIl'Gun--1993---------------------2011 -------------2044---------------------2060---split -------------1984---------------------2020
20grWin296--1902---------------------1924 -------------1893---------------------1926 -------------1899---------------------1904 ---------------------------------------1915
21grWin296--2054---------------------2119 -------------2089---------------------2136 -------------2059---------------------2120
This was from a ProChro at 10'. Encore barrel is 15" not including brake (16.5" total) and had a 2.5-7 burris pistol scope. The encore barrel seemed to love all the loads at 50 yds. All groups were sub 1.25". I wasnt shooting for groups, but after the first couple strings, I noticed how good it was shooting and got serious with the Win296 loads. The 21gr load made one hole at 50yds.
The Puma was really sticky on the first session (no chrono) using 19 gr AA#9. I only shot 3 of the 6 rounds. 18gr AA#9 the gun functioned good except on the second shot the brass ringed and split and was sticky opening.
Lil'gun also had a round split, but none of the rounds were sticky on extraction. Moving up another grain, the gun extracted good.
Win296 gave the best results in the encore and the puma. It suprised me as I was expecting it to do the worse in the longer barrels. The Puma cycled it as well as the lil gun (good, but still not as slick as an empty chamber.) I'd never shot a lever before so I dont know what to expect.
The Puma put all the rounds into a 4" group. It was almost 8 inches left and 3" high. I left the elevation alone, but dont know how to fix the windage problem. Trigger is crisp but really stout. I'm gonna stick with the 296 and make make a ramp to see where it goes from there and might p/u some 180's.
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