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Post by bibbyman on Oct 2, 2013 14:37:04 GMT -5
Having just bought a matched pair of Uberti Cattleman 45s, I thought I'd try a set of Wolff springs on one just to see any improvement. I just installed the main and trigger/bolt springs in one gun. It's really hard to feel any improvement. I don't have a gage to accurately quantity any difference. The actions on the Cattlemans were really good right out of the box. About all I feel I gained was some spare parts.
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Post by seancass on Oct 5, 2013 12:37:07 GMT -5
Are your guns new from the factory? My SAA clones felt like different guns after just a spring change! Same with my Rugers, the ones with factory springs feel clunky in comparison.
Does Wolff offer "factory" weight springs and "light" weight springs? I'm just surprised by your findings!
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Post by bibbyman on Oct 5, 2013 19:29:13 GMT -5
My guns were new from the dealer. As I mentioned, I was very impressed with both of them out of the box. These are not my first handguns. I have a number of Smith&Wessons -2s and older, 3 screw Roger Blackhawk, another Uberti Cattlman 45 that I've had some 30 years. There are a number of handguns I wish I'd kept - a Python for one. The point being, I have some reference experience. Mary has another pair of Cattleman 357/38s coming. It'll be interesting to see how well the actions work one these. While they are identical model, they are not matched pair or even consecutive numbered. www.midwayusa.com/product/355130/wolff-shooters-spring-pack-with-flat-sear-bolt-springs-colt-single-action-army-emf-hartfordI used the hammer and bolt/trigger springs out of this kit. The package says "reduced power" on it. |
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Post by TERRY MURBACH on Oct 7, 2013 16:37:21 GMT -5
MAYBE....MAYBE.... This comes outta the file marked " If it ain't broke do not fix it."
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Post by nolongcolt on Oct 7, 2013 22:15:14 GMT -5
Funny to see this now. I just ordered a reduced power trigger sear spring for a Ruger 77 MkII "Express" .338 I picked up on Saturday. Rifle score of a lifetime for me! Bloody stiff trigger though.
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Post by bibbyman on Oct 8, 2013 2:19:26 GMT -5
Don't let my findings on Wolff spring in my gun dissuade you from using their excellent products. I've used Wolff springs in old military rifles to improve ignition, and glad they were available. The major point of my post is that the Uberti guns came from the factory with springs and actions so good they didn't benefit to any notable degree. They sure didn't hurt and I didn't replace the factory set after all said and done.
Mary has another pair of Cattleman coming. They are not a matched set - just same model. It'll be interesting to see how they perform. Maybe matched sets get more attention at the factory? Maybe I just got lucky and whoever assembled my guns put in the effort to do them right?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 14:20:27 GMT -5
One big difference in spring quality is how they hold up after years of use. A factory spring could have the same initial tension as a well developed Wolff spring, but for how long? No spring will smooth an action for you, all the do is give you consistent, repeatable, reliable performance. I use a lot of Wolff & ISMI springs.
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Post by bibbyman on Oct 13, 2013 16:36:50 GMT -5
We just got back from a local SASS match. I'm pleased with my Cattlemans and I shot "clean" (but not what you would call fast). A guy at the match had a pair of Taylor Smokewagons in 44/40. When we had a chance we compared the 4 guns. His guns were definitely smoother and lighter hammer and trigger pull. His Smokewagons had some features not found on my Cattlemans. One was a replaceable firing pin busing in the frame. You could see that the bolt had been smoothed up and reshaped a little.
He tried the actions on both of my Cattlemans and could not decide if one was lighter or smoother than the other.
While his guns definitely have lighter and smoother action, I think my guns are plenty good the way they are.
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Post by bibbyman on Dec 11, 2013 12:19:22 GMT -5
I thought I'd make an update on the Wolff spring compare. As cold weather has set in, I've resorted to dry firing both guns practicing gunfighter style. I've noticed that both guns have smoothed up some. The gun with the Wolff springs now show some greater difference in hammer cocking force. I can now say I can tell the difference in the two guns. I've not swapped out the springs to see if it's just the individual gun or the springs that make the difference.
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