joej
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Post by joej on Oct 4, 2013 7:49:17 GMT -5
With that heavy bullet (325 grain) you might want to try 17.0 to 20.0 grains of VV N110 - it doesn't have the violent snap to it like H110 and you may find somewhere in there the velocity and accuracy you're seeking. VV N-340 is a fine powder for 250 grain bullets - both jacketed and cast - try 9.2 grains, you might like it.
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taz
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Post by taz on Oct 5, 2013 18:43:40 GMT -5
Colt SAA 45 cal. made in 1957 5 1/2"
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taz
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Post by taz on Oct 5, 2013 18:47:26 GMT -5
My standard load for the 45 Colt 9 grains Unique with a Keith 255 SWC have taken 9 black bear and 7 White tails all from a 2nd gen Colt SAA .All within 50 yards. Life is good T J B taz, what's the barrel length of your SAA? 5 1/2 Most shots were complete pass through taken from ground blinds and tree stands lung shots. A man must know his limitations and after 50 years of hunting I have learned mine.
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Post by 45coltnut on Oct 7, 2013 6:28:44 GMT -5
Taz, That's awesome and congrats on that many animals. I hope to take my first one this year. Unfortunately, I just broke my right hand yesterday. I guess I'll be shooting left handed this year I started out loading every load I could try in the 250 cast bullets. matter of fact, I still have lots of bullets left. I just cannot get my 5 1/2" Bisley to shoot them. I think its shooting them somewhat better after the firelapping. But, still not great. This was the reason for the heavy loads. Thank God I finally found a bullet to shoot.I was starting to get discouraged about the Bisley. Hopefully I can share some pics in another 5 weeks of a deer. Craig
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Post by 45coltnut on Oct 7, 2013 6:30:23 GMT -5
joej,
Thanks for the powder suggestion. Ive been wanting to try the VV powders for some time. But, no one in my area carries its. Maybe at one the upcoming gun shows I can find some.
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taz
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Post by taz on Oct 10, 2013 13:46:32 GMT -5
Taz, That's awesome and congrats on that many animals. I hope to take my first one this year. Unfortunately, I just broke my right hand yesterday. I guess I'll be shooting left handed this year I started out loading every load I could try in the 250 cast bullets. matter of fact, I still have lots of bullets left. I just cannot get my 5 1/2" Bisley to shoot them. I think its shooting them somewhat better after the firelapping. But, still not great. This was the reason for the heavy loads. Thank God I finally found a bullet to shoot.I was starting to get discouraged about the Bisley. Hopefully I can share some pics in another 5 weeks of a deer. Craig I limit my shots to 50 yds. max. I love the challenge of using the Old Colt SAA .To me a handgun is nothing more than a punch ,it delivers no shock to the animal they just bleed out most of the time ,I never thought I needed a bigger gun seeing that my loads punched through very easily. TAZ
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Shakey
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Post by Shakey on Oct 10, 2013 22:13:51 GMT -5
Taz, that's some good work. Congratulations.
Did those whitetails do any running after they were shot through the lungs? It matters to me because I mostly hunt narrow "nature strips" between clear-cuts and the deer tend to show up right at sunset. Any run more than a few yards becomes a tracking job, ...not much fun in the dark.
I've had quick stops with Hornady 240 gr XTPs in .44 mag but been wanting to try some cast in .45 Colt. I have no doubt it will kill them but would rather not have to trail them down.
Also been thinking about changing from lung shots to shoulder. Any comments or suggestions?
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 11, 2013 7:42:10 GMT -5
Shakey.... To me, tracking is the most connected hunt there is. Takes a good snow in country with few other hunters. Lung shots from a revolver with the right bullet concludes the matter quickly. My swaged half jacket .44s with pure lead core in SWC and the old Hornady 240 JHP, also with pure lead core, performed with aplomb. Likewise. the old, pre-XTP Hornady .41 and .45 JHP. Wasn't until I hunted in the south, in monstrous kudzu and skin slashing thorn thickets that I fell in with Elgin Gates' predilection for the shoulder shot. Gates fixed on the shoulder shot to anchor sheep to the cliffs they stand on, and to paste African plains game, which he had seen travel nearly forever with chest shots that hammer elk.
The worst mistake a hunter can make is to celebrate the the kill before its guts are removed or before its swings from the meat pole. A second mistake is to focus on the game instead of your sights. A third mistake is to see the chest of an animal as the target, when the target in your mind is the size of a fist. Please don't take this as preaching; I work to keep it in mind at all times. David Bradshaw
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taz
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Post by taz on Oct 13, 2013 18:44:42 GMT -5
Taz, that's some good work. Congratulations. Did those whitetails do any running after they were shot through the lungs? It matters to me because I mostly hunt narrow "nature strips" between clear-cuts and the deer tend to show up right at sunset. Any run more than a few yards becomes a tracking job, ...not much fun in the dark. I've had quick stops with Hornady 240 gr XTPs in .44 mag but been wanting to try some cast in .45 Colt. I have no doubt it will kill them but would rather not have to trail them down. Also been thinking about changing from lung shots to shoulder. Any comments or suggestions? I prefer the lung shot and look to take out both lungs and yes these lung shot deer did travel some, most fell within 80 yards .I savor the hunt and tracking my game .To me it is a package deal . Best of luck TAZ
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 14, 2013 8:50:55 GMT -5
Shakey.... Nosler .45 250 JHP with pure lead core seated over 24.7 gr./296 or H110 launches from 5-1/2" Blackhawk 1140-1150 fps, packs wallop. NOT for Colt Peacemaker family. The Nosler revolver JHPs mimic in my experience the old, pre-XTP Hornady JHPs, which were superb deer bullets. A lung shot that misses the heart bleeds out muscle into the pleural cavity. Makes for the cleanest meat. David Bradshaw
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taz
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Post by taz on Oct 14, 2013 16:19:38 GMT -5
Shakey.... Nosler .45 250 JHP with pure lead core seated over 24.7 gr./296 or H110 launches from 5-1/2" Blackhawk 1140-1150 fps, packs wallop. NOT for Colt Peacemaker family. The Nosler revolver JHPs mimic in my experience the old, pre-XTP Hornady JHPs, which were superb deer bullets. A lung shot that misses the heart bleeds out muscle into the pleural cavity. Makes for the cleanest meat. David Bradshaw My Grandfather used a 44/40 and said lung shots made the best tasting deer .I have to say I agree with grandpa.
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Shakey
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Post by Shakey on Oct 15, 2013 1:09:41 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Tracking deer before shooting them is one thing but tracking a wounded one is an entirely different matter. I admit following up a blood trail under difficult conditions is pretty satisfying but, it's something I avoid when possible. Blood trailing deer through some of those pine/blackberry thickets at night is never fun and, sometimes, is just plain impossible.
I have been very happy with the Hornady 240 gr XTP in the .44 Mag, especially in a carbine. But, my usual .45 Colt load is a 255 gr LBT WFN over 9 gr of Unique and was sort of hoping to hear DRT stories from people using something like that.
I think if I try the WFNs I'll aim for the lungs if it's morning and the shoulder if it's near sunset. How is that for a plan?
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