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Post by CraigC on Jan 23, 2013 17:45:29 GMT -5
No, it is not a satin finish, it's just not a bright polish and whatever it is you're posting is wrong. If a bright polish can be done with charcoal bluing, I have never seen it.
"That" gun? There are five of them.
Charcoal blue and carbonia blue are not the same process. S&W and Colt did not use the same process. The color is different and S&W's carbonia had a high polish. Colt's looked just like the sixguns pictured. S&W's were a deep black. I'm not gonna continue to go around and around on this. You have pics of five sixguns done in charcoal blue. Either produce a high gloss charcoal blue sixgun or drop it.
Did you read the thread I posted a link to? Do you know who Steven Dodd Hughes is?
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Post by RpR on Jan 23, 2013 18:00:43 GMT -5
Yes I read the article and did you read what I posted, they ARE ALL VARIATIONS of same basic process. Of course they are not all identical as they each used its own special method.
I spoke with Ron at Ron's and he has forgotten more about this than you know. Call him up and tell him he is wrong.
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Post by CraigC on Jan 23, 2013 18:25:13 GMT -5
In that regard, all types of bluing and browning are "variations of the same process".
I've seen several references that some of the info on Ron's site was incorrect. Whatever.
I guess the book that is regarded as one of the best Colt references with actual pictures of the polishing and bluing rooms in the Colt factory before the war, along with a complete description of the process is wrong too. As is the references for S&W's process.
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Post by jdpress on Jan 31, 2013 12:12:58 GMT -5
The USFA Henry Nettleton and Ainsworth Inspector Models have a very highly polished charcoal blued finish that looks like a mirror. This is one of the Ainsworth models: Another, different USFA Ainsworth: J.D. Press
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Post by CraigC on Jan 31, 2013 15:02:14 GMT -5
No offense but it looks like the rest of the guns we've posted. Not a bright polish but more of a soft brushed luster. I believe somewhere around 1200grit.
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Post by jdpress on Feb 1, 2013 10:35:01 GMT -5
No offense but it looks like the rest of the guns we've posted. Not a bright polish but more of a soft brushed luster. I believe somewhere around 1200grit. I have to agree with you; the photos do not show the high gloss finish - I will take some new, high-resolution photographs and see if that shows the actual finish. J.D. Press
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Post by RpR on Feb 1, 2013 14:36:39 GMT -5
Even with today's supposed digital wonder tools, taking a photograph of a high gloss finish that shows the gloss is extremely difficult.
That is why the book that was written about the one hundred years of the 1911, when showing pristine originals, speaking of their high-gloss, just looked black, not showing the gloss where one can see one's own reflected image.
The camera will focus on the point its sensors recognize and depending on lens quality, leave the rest soft. If one has a one with a good manual focus and exposure one can try using that.
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Post by CraigC on Feb 1, 2013 14:57:12 GMT -5
I don't think it's difficult at all.
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Post by CraigC on Feb 1, 2013 14:57:45 GMT -5
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Post by hammerdown77 on Feb 1, 2013 15:41:25 GMT -5
Well, those don't look any different than the one he posted earlier: Keep in mind, we're all probably looking at this stuff on different monitors. and unless you do graphic/photo editing for a living, you aren't using a professional grade monitor costing 2 grand either....
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Post by CraigC on Feb 1, 2013 16:43:33 GMT -5
Those should look quite different because in addition to the level of polish, the hot salt blue of the two last guns I pictured is a deep black. While charcoal or carbona blue has a slight blue hue. In hand, the two finishes are night and day.
IMHO, pic quality will have a far greater impact than monitor quality but I'm about ready to give up on this thread. I don't see a point in continuing to argue about this trivial issue. The fact remains, the USFA Pre-war, as pictured, was finished to replicate a 1st generation Colt SAA and that's all that really matters.
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Post by nolongcolt on Aug 1, 2013 22:17:52 GMT -5
I didnt know there would be so many opinions on what actually constituted charcoal bluing! Anyway I am still looking for a nice Uberti .45 Colt so colored, whatever its called. Bid on one on GB yesterday, but got outbid. Oh well, a few are around. Well I finally bit the dust on one a couple of months ago, on layaway. Got it yesterday. Gorgeous! Trouble is now I cant decide if I want to shoot it or just hold and admire it. Uberti Old Model .45 Colt, 43/4" barrel. I havent even turned it yet.
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Post by whitworth on Aug 2, 2013 8:31:42 GMT -5
I didnt know there would be so many opinions on what actually constituted charcoal bluing! Anyway I am still looking for a nice Uberti .45 Colt so colored, whatever its called. Bid on one on GB yesterday, but got outbid. Oh well, a few are around. Well I finally bit the dust on one a couple of months ago, on layaway. Got it yesterday. Gorgeous! Trouble is now I cant decide if I want to shoot it or just hold and admire it. Uberti Old Model .45 Colt, 43/4" barrel. I havent even turned it yet. Well let's see it!
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Post by squawberryman on Aug 2, 2013 15:36:28 GMT -5
Makes me mad whenever I see a 12/22, especially one that looks like that one Craig. One of those and Bob's Sparrowhawk, that's all I want.....
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Post by nolongcolt on Aug 2, 2013 17:36:27 GMT -5
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