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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 14, 2012 23:16:44 GMT -5
So I just sent a commit to buy email to a seller of a BFR in .480 Ruger only. Near new from the early 2000's they say. 7.5 inch, looks fine. Price is $750 plus ship, seems pretty reasonable to me. Will post again when purchase confirmed. Going to have to take something to the gun show tomorrow. Likely going to be a S&W .45 Colt Mountain Gun, a 625-6 with box and papers and I am the original owner. Going to try to get about $650 for it at the show.
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Post by tek4260 on Apr 15, 2012 10:34:37 GMT -5
So I just sent a commit to buy email to a seller of a BFR in .480 Ruger only. Near new from the early 2000's they say. 7.5 inch, looks fine. Price is $750 plus ship, seems pretty reasonable to me. Will post again when purchase confirmed. Going to have to take something to the gun show tomorrow. Likely going to be a S&W .45 Colt Mountain Gun, a 625-6 with box and papers and I am the original owner. Going to try to get about $650 for it at the show. Did they ever make a 480 only BFR? I know that to this day, the wholesalers have them listed as 480's, but they are actually 475's.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 15, 2012 10:41:00 GMT -5
The one I am looking at states plainly on the barrel .480 Ruger and nothing else. I too wondered about that.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 15, 2012 17:16:08 GMT -5
MY MOUNTAIN GUN SOLD TODAY AT THE SHOW.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 15, 2012 18:29:52 GMT -5
Buy confirmed with seller! BFR in .480 should be on the way soon. Will keep you posted and have pics when it gets here.
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Post by rjm52 on Apr 16, 2012 11:37:27 GMT -5
I spoke to one of the head reps at the SHOT Show this year just on this "why no Super Blackhawk 5 shot .480?" question... The reason...they have put some guns together and in their "long term" testing the guns didn't hold up to their satisfaction....
Asked why all the custom makers could do it and Ruger could not...he said that was not the problem, it could be done but again the guns didn't hold up to "their" satisfaction....as in the "lawyers" satisfaction.....
So don't hold your breath....Bob
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Post by Lee Martin on Apr 16, 2012 12:02:25 GMT -5
My take on Ruger and no 5-shot 480s? To do it right they'd have to go the custom shop route. These guns generate more pressure and back-thrust than a 45 Colt or 44 Magnum. Built to current factory spec and you could get bolt peening and endshake. They'd really require better fit and finish to last, similar to what Magnum Research does on their BFR. Remember, it was easy to do it on the SRH because that platform was so over-engineered from the start. Blackhawks were never designed for near 50,000 PSI. Even with 5-shot cylinders Ruger may not be comfortable with other aspects of the model. Is the barrel shank and forcing cone heavy enough to withstand thousands of rounds of 475 caliber? Is frame-stretch going to be a concern after say 20,000 rounds? Etc, etc. Now the custom guys account for all this with their conversions. Rigid cylinder fit, minimal spec chambers, 11 degree forcing cones, bolt support, and line-boring / line-indexing are the norm. Even then, Rugers have a finite life and that life is less than say an FA 83 (doubt me? Ask Hamilton Bowen). For Ruger to do all this it would be a quasi-custom proposition. Just a thought. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time"
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Post by Thunderjet on Apr 16, 2012 12:02:48 GMT -5
What is the advantage over having an auxullary cylinder in 480 Ruger vs just down loading the 457 Linebaugh? I ask because my FA in 475 is being built as we speak.
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Post by joemack41 on Apr 16, 2012 18:16:07 GMT -5
What is the advantage over having an auxullary cylinder in 480 Ruger vs just down loading the 457 Linebaugh? I ask because my FA in 475 is being built as we speak. No chance of a cylinder ring building up in the LB cylinder. Tolerences in the FA are really tight . If the bullet is a little on the soft side and leads, it's a PITA to get out.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 16, 2012 20:28:15 GMT -5
What is the advantage over having an auxullary cylinder in 480 Ruger vs just down loading the 457 Linebaugh? I ask because my FA in 475 is being built as we speak. To your question I dont think there is much advantage. Especially since as I understand it, the .480 can approach within say 200 fps of the .475 and that is easy enough to load down to. If on the other hand the question is shooting .480 ammo in the longer chamber, that question is answered by joemack41.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 19, 2012 21:02:04 GMT -5
Per the caliber of the BFR I am waiting for, I sent the serial number to MR and they said it left as .480 only, made in 2001.
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Post by whitworth on Apr 21, 2012 21:59:38 GMT -5
What is the advantage over having an auxullary cylinder in 480 Ruger vs just down loading the 457 Linebaugh? I ask because my FA in 475 is being built as we speak. I think it's a non issue.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 23, 2012 18:20:37 GMT -5
The BFR .480 got here today, a few days earlier than expected. Looks pretty good, certainly a a bigger gun than a SBH. Action is smooth, free spin cylinder (AC-DC). Barrel was listed as 7.5 but as some do, dont know why, they measure differently. I had always thought any revolver was measured from the cylinder face to the muzzle but some like to be different. Anyway its about 8.25" from the cylinder. Havent shot it yet but it looks promising. Chamber mouths are a quite uniform .476+ as near as I can measure with a dial caliper. Would that be normal for this caliber, never had one before. I like the recessed chambers and they seem fairly tight with some Speer factory loads I got at the show. My first .475 cal revolver, should be fun! I will post some pics after I shoot it.
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Post by subsonic on Apr 23, 2012 20:44:07 GMT -5
The throats are right on. MR can hold tollerances.
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