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Post by theoldredneck on Apr 7, 2012 9:25:37 GMT -5
I have an old model Single Six that the cylinder shoots patterns instead of groups. A couple of the chambers will shoot under 1" groups at 25 yards if just that chamber is loaded and used. The alignment on the rest is bad enough to shave lead. My question is 2 part. I have heard that if you have Ruger fit a new cylinder they are accurate and group well. Any first hand experience? 2. I know if I send it back they will do the conversion, I have heard you do not get the old parts back now. Is that true. Any other feed back? Thanks for any replys.
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JM
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Post by JM on Apr 7, 2012 14:18:15 GMT -5
Can you keep the old action parts & just send in the cylinder & frame? I think I would try that.
~JM~
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COR
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Post by COR on Apr 8, 2012 10:41:04 GMT -5
My advice is to call Ruger and ask them. You'll be no further ahead here even if you get 50 replies...
Some Single sixes are finicky on ammo...how many types have your tried?
..and yes you get the OM parts back, cylinder maybe not, if they replace it, but I doubt they will replace. I'd still ask them...
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Post by theoldredneck on Apr 8, 2012 12:23:40 GMT -5
The chambers of the cylinder that is in it is out of alignment bad enough to shave lead. Looking down the barrel with a bore scope it is easy to see just how bad. The 2 chambers that do align shoot very good groups. I am willing to pay for a new cylinder from Ruger, not looking for a freeby. Just trying to find out if my money would be better spent on a cylinder blank and having a custom smith bore and chamber it. It was a given that if Ruger got the gun they would do their conversion, if I got the parts back it could be put back. Having Ruger build a cylinder and it not shooting any better than just average would also be a waste of money. I shoot handguns and have for 50 years. Like custom guns, and cylinders that are in alignment when the hammer falls. I'll call Ruger tomorrow and see what they say. Depending on what they tell me I'll send it to them or my smith. Thank you both for taking time to reply. This forum has a lot of good information on a lot of things.
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Post by bagdadjoe on Apr 8, 2012 12:30:20 GMT -5
Since Ruger is paranoid about safety and lawsuits, and a cylinder shaving lead is obviously a eyesight hazard, I'm guessing they'll fix the problem. Guessing. Also guessing that if they convert the action to a transfer bar and you convert it back, they've already fulfilled their end of the safety issue and are under no liability, which is why they don't mind sending the parts back.
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Post by theoldredneck on Apr 8, 2012 13:56:07 GMT -5
That takes care of the conversion part, now if anyone had experience with their cylinder replacement and how well they shot?
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Post by 2 Dogs on Apr 8, 2012 15:53:38 GMT -5
Alan Harton is the man when it comes to repairing misaligned cylinders. He will add weld to the bolt on the offending side.
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Post by klhill on Apr 9, 2012 10:30:26 GMT -5
With shipping to & from Ruger plus cost of repairs it will get expensive.Al Story sells 6 and 8 shot cylinders direct or through Brownells for $100 and $120.I stopped at his shop last year and bought one of the 8 shot cylinders and it fit my OM perfectly and shoots well. brcrifles.com I was surprised that the timing would be right on the 8 shot cylinder with the original hand. |
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Post by theoldredneck on Apr 9, 2012 12:48:33 GMT -5
I had not thought about Mr.Story. When the 17 HM-2 came out I bought barrels, and cylinder blanks for the HM-2, and HMR cylinders. Got Pacific Tool and gauge to make a 17 HM-2 revolver reamer. Built a pair of convertables, one with open sights on an old model single six, other with a scope on a new model single six. His cylinders and blanks were dead on. Thanks for the advice, I like that best of all. Will just order his cylinder. Thanks to all that replied. I put the gun back years ago saving it for a future project. The thread about the Loveless single six made me think about it. Needed a cylinder but hated to send it to Ruger because of the conversion. Didn't want to put a lot of time, money and effort in a gun that didn't shoot. A cylinder from Mr. Story should fix that.
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Post by klhill on Apr 9, 2012 13:58:17 GMT -5
Your Ruger 17s sound nice! Al is now making cylinder/barrel kits for the Ruger SS in 17M2 and 17HMR.About a year and a half ago he did a 327/32-20 conversion for me on an OM 357.About 6months to complete and quite reasonable price.Good luck on the new cylinder.
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Post by theoldredneck on Apr 26, 2012 9:12:03 GMT -5
klhill, Thank you for reminding me about Mr. Al Story. Found a old model 22 long rifle cylinder that worked great with the old model SS. Have 2 of the new model single six revolvers I bought used. They only had the 22 mag cylinders when I bought them. Had wanted long rifle cylinders but never found any at a reasonable price. Did not want to send them back to Ruger. Called Mr. Story and ordered a couple of the 6 shot cylinders. They fit tight and with some minor fitting both shoot great. Groups are tight even with cheap bulk ammo. Well worth the cost, wish I had known about them before. Thanks again for telling me about his 22 cylinders.
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