RpR
.30 Stingray
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Post by RpR on Mar 14, 2012 19:23:46 GMT -5
The cartridges based on the .458 Win. Mag. go back to at least the Vietnam War when a .458 x 1.3 was tried, and other came along by others (I think one of the Cartridges of the World has a story, or at least some info) being 1.5, 2.0 for reasons including silhouettes. Who started what or who followed whom can possibly be found if one searches the Interational Ammunition Association forum, or maybe not.
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Post by AxeHandle on Mar 14, 2012 20:54:09 GMT -5
Choose? Choose? Now who in the world would even want to do that? The obvious only answer is BOTH!
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dmize
.401 Bobcat
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Post by dmize on Mar 14, 2012 21:09:43 GMT -5
Yup on the JRH. Being the tight ass that I am I trimmed down 100 nickle .500 S&W brass from Midway, cut .400 off the seat/crimp die on my $35 Lee 500 S&W die set and I am shooting the crap out of my 500JRH BFR.
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Post by whitworth on Mar 14, 2012 22:17:40 GMT -5
Choose? Choose? Now who in the world would even want to do that? The obvious only answer is BOTH! Yes indeed, Axe!
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Post by whitworth on Mar 14, 2012 22:20:07 GMT -5
Yup on the JRH. Being the tight ass that I am I trimmed down 100 nickle .500 S&W brass from Midway, cut .400 off the seat/crimp die on my $35 Lee 500 S&W die set and I am shooting the crap out of my 500JRH BFR. Nothing wrong with that, dmize!
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dmize
.401 Bobcat
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Post by dmize on Mar 15, 2012 10:26:06 GMT -5
Yea and friendly advice and guidance from fellow forum members comes in handy too
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Post by AxeHandle on Mar 15, 2012 11:00:42 GMT -5
In addition to having someone share in our misery my personal interest is expanding the knowledge base of the entire group.. The more each one of us knows the better off we all are. And you never know there just could be something real in The hundredth monkey effect
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Post by wickerbill on Mar 16, 2012 22:42:13 GMT -5
Question for you Lee. What is the one on the far right and what is it based on? That looks interesting. Bill
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Post by subsonic on Mar 17, 2012 6:19:39 GMT -5
I think what bigbores is referring to is that by putting the belt on the WE, the brass can be thinner farther down to allow deep seating of heavy bullets. The WE is shorter, but has a hair more case capacity than the JRH. The JRH brass will only allow about .530" of the bullet in the case. Which translates to a bullet weight limit of "only" about 485-490gr if you are using all of the throat on a 1.850" cylinder like a custom Ruger or BFR. If that's not what he's talking about, it's worth mentioning. As well as the fact that 492gr is the same as an ounce and an eighth and would be moving close to the same speed as a trap load!
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Post by Lee Martin on Mar 17, 2012 7:10:02 GMT -5
Bill....the cartridge on the right is my 450 Bonecrusher. Basically a 500 Linebaugh necked to 458 (30 degree shoulder). Here's the gun: -Lee www.singleactions.com
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Post by whitworth on Mar 17, 2012 9:50:22 GMT -5
I think what bigbores is referring to is that by putting the belt on the WE, the brass can be thinner farther down to allow deep seating of heavy bullets. The WE is shorter, but has a hair more case capacity than the JRH. The JRH brass will only allow about .530" of the bullet in the case. Which translates to a bullet weight limit of "only" about 485-490gr if you are using all of the throat on a 1.850" cylinder like a custom Ruger or BFR. If that's not what he's talking about, it's worth mentioning. As well as the fact that 492gr is the same as an ounce and an eighth and would be moving close to the same speed as a trap load! You can ream the inside of the case and problem solved. I know it's an extra step, and not really necessary. Enough bullet weight and a good nose profile are all you need.
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