razor
.327 Meteor
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Post by razor on Nov 25, 2011 21:22:08 GMT -5
Is this worth the extry money? I have a Ruger Bisley 45 that shoots about as good as my FA gun. Does Reeder line bore his guns?
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 25, 2011 22:37:01 GMT -5
Don't think Reeder line bores.. In my simple mind line boring may not be required for an accurate revolver but it minimizes a significant source of mechanical variation and significantly increases the possibility of each cylinder chamber shooting the same.. Beyond the line boring we have the cylinder throats, forcing cone, the length of the barrel, and the muzzle. Don't forget the trigger job helping you to make the hammer fall without disturbing the sight alignment, and lastly your gripping the revolver and controlling the recoil exactly the same way every time..
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Post by CraigC on Nov 25, 2011 23:58:24 GMT -5
Reeder does not linebore. Nor does he block the action or open the frame window for a larger diameter cylinder. All reasons why his five-shot conversions cost less than other `smiths.
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rawly
.240 Incinerator
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Post by rawly on Nov 26, 2011 1:21:10 GMT -5
Actually he does open the window to fit that xtra large cylinder in there Rawly
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COR
.375 Atomic
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Post by COR on Nov 26, 2011 6:32:13 GMT -5
If your gun shoots that well than why would you need it??? I do not believe it's something I'd spend money for in the situation you described, but it's your nickel.
BTW...Why not just ask Gary Reeder when you have a question about his guns? He's just an email away and you'll get the correct information for sure....incidentallly he does not line bore but an email to him will confirm that. Relying on folks that haven't dealt with Gary just wastes your time, although many on here have...I'd verify with the man himself and not rely on info from a forum.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 26, 2011 8:07:01 GMT -5
Razor, what lineboring does, is gives your sixgun every opportunity to shoot well, assuming the barrel is of good quality and free of restriction.
Is it worth the money? I have to answer that from a shooters standpoint. That depends on how well you can shoot. For example, your FA gun should hold about 3/4" at 25 yards handheld. Can you do that???
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Post by Lee Martin on Nov 26, 2011 14:56:18 GMT -5
We've line-bored and also line-indexed and the latter shoots every bit as good as the former. In fact, we've line-indexed since the mid-90's and I've yet to have a conversion that isn't capable of sub-1" at 25 yards and sub-2" at 50 (assuming the right load and shooter doing their part). Line-boring has become all the buzz, but here's the deal. All you accomplish is indicating the pilot holes against the frame centerline. You still have to pull the cylinder to drill completely thru to the rim edge. That process requires you to re-indicate the cylinder in an indexing head. Flipping it over to chamber requires the same. I prefer line-indexing because we accomplish the same thing but drill the bore once. In other words, we indicate the bore centerline off a frame mounted shank. The cylinder is then indexed in a Hartford Super Spacer and the throat is completely drilled front to back. Using the same indexing set-up, we flip the cylinder, re-set the indexing, and proceed to cut the chambers. In my experience this is a more sound way to make cylinders. For one, the jigs used to hold the frame aren't as positive as a 3-jaw head. Not that they aren't rigid, but an in-battery cylinder (even with a bearing block) is less positive than a large chuck. BTW, Magnum Research is known for unbelievable out of box accuracy. Anyone wanna guess how they cut theirs? Hope this helps. -Lee www.singleactions.com
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Post by kmcmichael on Nov 26, 2011 20:00:05 GMT -5
You are lucky with your Ruger. I have several that will not shoot as well as my FA.
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Post by sixshooter on Nov 26, 2011 20:27:13 GMT -5
You are lucky with your Ruger. I have several that will not shoot as well as my FA. I don't think it's luck. Lee's Rugers are custom conversions, precisely fit. And if I remember correctly he also uses top quality barrel.
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Post by kmcmichael on Nov 28, 2011 18:22:51 GMT -5
The original poster did not indicate that it was any sort of custom conversion. I do not understand your comment or the connection with "Lee's Rugers". Please explain?
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razor
.327 Meteor
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Post by razor on Nov 29, 2011 12:19:02 GMT -5
I was not going to have my Ruger linebored. It is stock except for Andy Horvath recrowning the barrel and taking the warning off of the barrel and engraving off the cyclinder. I was just wondering if lineboring was what made the FA guns so accurate.
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dmize
.401 Bobcat
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Post by dmize on Nov 30, 2011 13:35:16 GMT -5
I think what makes FA guns so accurate is more in all the little things that are carefully done with precision than any one thing in particular.
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Post by whitworth on Nov 30, 2011 13:41:11 GMT -5
I think what makes FA guns so accurate is more in all the little things that are carefully done with precision than any one thing in particular. And they are line bored.......
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