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Post by bigbore5 on Mar 2, 2024 21:40:20 GMT -5
If they are long enough for the Keith bullet crimped in the groove and will take his hot load, I may have to reconsider it
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Post by bearskinner on Mar 2, 2024 23:08:00 GMT -5
I’m already loading up a batch of warm 175 grain GC, HP’s from my MP mold. Nice tight crimp, lots of powder, tiny handy gun.
Plus I’m anxious to see and feel the new mini Bisley fat back trigger on it.
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Post by northerngos on Mar 3, 2024 0:00:09 GMT -5
Ronnie called me, but had already left the shop. He'll measure the cylinders and let us know. Definitely look forward to hearing more about these. I've spent years accumulating 38-44 Data which is literally what these guns are. Also, have the data Clements developed for his guns. Maybe we can do a thread on load data for these guns one day... Would love to pick your brain on it at some point, seems perfectly pertinent! |
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Post by RDW on Mar 3, 2024 13:24:19 GMT -5
Ronnie called me, but had already left the shop. He'll measure the cylinders and let us know. Definitely look forward to hearing more about these. I've spent years accumulating 38-44 Data which is literally what these guns are. Also, have the data Clements developed for his guns. Maybe we can do a thread on load data for these guns one day... Well here you go guys. My 38 cylinder from front to back From Back of ratchet to fire ring Measures 1.700" Fire ring is .040 and Ratchet is .085 from faces of the cylinder. There is a method to my madness. Lots of experimentation. Look to the left of ratchet area and you will notice the Case Heads are sunk about .040 leaving about .020 still out so i can still see if theres Rounds in there. Plus these single sixes are not all over the place but there are some slight variations in castings. This seems to work for all of them. Chambers are snug but so far no sticking and i just put 10 rounds thru matts gun with 13.5 Grs 2400 behind a 180 gas checked lee mold design and samee same. no problems. However 12.5 seems to be the magic number.  This one here you can see a round in it and from the back of the shell case head it is 1.575" ( Top Dimention in Gray) to the front of the cylinder.  I can hang .420 thousands out of the front of the case on this mammy. And i am diggin it man!  Hope that helps.R |
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Post by Encore64 on Mar 3, 2024 13:27:26 GMT -5
It certainly helps!!!
That's .055" longer than mine at 1.520".
I know you can cut that window longer because Jack did my 218 Bee and 25-20. Cylinders are larger around too.
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Post by RDW on Mar 3, 2024 14:02:02 GMT -5
It certainly helps!!! That's .055" longer than mine at 1.520". I know you can cut that window longer because Jack did my 218 Bee and 25-20. Cylinders are larger around too. Ya Man with the smaller bullet rounds like the 32-20 and 25-20 and the bee and hornet i dont have a problem. With the 38 stuff i just dont think there is anything to be gained. we could go 1.500 to 1. 520 without a problem but like i said using the 17-4 whats the sense. How big are your cylinders od. |
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Post by northerngos on Mar 3, 2024 15:02:31 GMT -5
This is awesome information thanks Ronnie! I appreciate you taking the time to post this on your weekend.
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Post by RDW on Mar 3, 2024 15:39:21 GMT -5
This is awesome information thanks Ronnie! I appreciate you taking the time to post this on your weekend. Hahahahahahaha. What a ya talkin bowt Bud. Im here workin, LOL. My Pleasure sir. |
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Post by RDW on Mar 3, 2024 15:39:58 GMT -5
well if you consider working on sixguns working.
LOL
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Post by northerngos on Mar 3, 2024 16:01:26 GMT -5
Color me green! I’ll touch base early this week when it is convenient about the single six  |
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Post by Encore64 on Mar 3, 2024 16:05:43 GMT -5
Clements 38 Special...
O.D. 1.460"
Max C.O.A.L. 1.520"
JRH 25-20
O.D. 1.500"
Max C.O.A.L. 1.663"
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Post by cr390gt on Mar 4, 2024 6:49:14 GMT -5
I honestly think Ronnie is working even when he’s sleeping with all the cool shit he keeps coming up with
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Post by RDW on Mar 4, 2024 9:59:58 GMT -5
I honestly think Ronnie is working even when he’s sleeping with all the cool shit he keeps coming up with BUT WAIT, THERES MORE! Hahahaha |
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Post by RDW on Mar 4, 2024 10:00:28 GMT -5
Color me green! I’ll touch base early this week when it is convenient about the single six Cant wait. Lookin forward to it. |
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