Ruger service.

[tj3006]

We all know how good Ruger service is.
   But today takes the cake. 
   I reassembled a NM Blackhawk. (something I positively suck at) and after spending the hole day doing it I go to put the spring strut and springs in and can't find the pin that goes through the trigger return spring. 
Called Ruger, Jacob answers the phone and after a short conversation, 2 are on the way free of charge, no shipping or anything. 
  Now about reassembly, get this. I have the parts in the frame, Ronnies cool little gadget holding the spring down, and I can't get the trigger pivot pin through the second frame hole. The one just past the spring. Try tapping put oil on it it won't go through.
 Can't imagine the pin being bent but i can think of no other explanation. So, I pull it apart again and the pin fits. A little snug but no problem. I reassemble, and I can't get the pin through the same hole.
  The guy that rents a room in my basement and is a helpful type, is home so I ask him to push down on the spring with a screwdriver, and still can't get it through. Tapping it pushing it twisting it, nothing works. I step away from the bench for a second. He pushes down on the spring with his finger and pushes the pin through with his thumb. no struggle at all.
   Something is wrong with me. This kind thing has happened to me all my life. Cost me a job or two when I was young. 
 I spent hours trying to get that pin through. Using Ronnies tool using a screwdriver to hold the spring down, can't get it in to that second hole in the frame. My friend does it in 5 seconds. With no tools. 
 There is no explanation. I have done it before on other Ruger SAs. But each time something else holds me up.
    I have never put one together in under 4 hours. I bet some of you guys can do it in 10 minutes. ...tj
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[marcruger]

I believe it is called "Murphy's Law". Anything that can go wrong, will. God Bless, Marc

[x101airborne]

I have the same issue as you. Got so mad one time I threw a 1 1/4 inch wrench into the pasture and never found it. Really stupid of me because I had to go to town and get another wrench to finish the task. It takes me half a day to disassemble, clean and reassemble a Blackhawk. Fat fingers, shaky hands and broke knuckles dont help.

[taffin]

I have never put one together in under 4 hours. I bet some of you guys can do it in 10 minutes. ...tj
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[paleroadster]

The first time I did one that pin went through so clean and easy with nothing but a screwdriver blade on the spring I thought people were silly claiming it was a problem.  The second time was a real headscratcher.  I now have one of Ronnie's extra hands and still, sometimes I slide it one and no big deal, other times it's nothing but trouble.  I think the spring is very close when it goes well, and too close when it doesn't and you can't see it at all.  Wish I had a solution instead of commiseration.  Maybe the spring being very slightly forward or backward does it?

[rvolvr]

Jan 18, 2024 11:05:17 GMT -5 tj3006 said:

   Something is wrong with me. This kind thing has happened to me all my life.
 ...tj




Some people would say you're not holding your mouth right.













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[bradshaw]

One of the first things I do on disassembly is see whether pins slide into their respective holes smoothly of get hung up. A burr on a pin or in a hole gets dressed.

Next time you disassemble a New Model, make a few runs of the trigger pin into the frame----without the loading gate spring. Interference from a spring----such as tilted trigger return spring----can push a pin to catch on the edge of the next hole it must enter.

In assembly as a trial runs of parts----without spring tension----helps develop the feel.
David Bradshaw

[Burnston]

Jan 18, 2024 11:05:17 GMT -5 tj3006 said:

  Now about reassembly, get this. I have the parts in the frame, Ronnies cool little gadget holding the spring down, and I can't get the trigger pivot pin through the second frame hole. The one just past the spring. Try tapping put oil on it it won't go through.

Just a few days ago I had a New Vaquero in pieces replacing the factory hammer with a SBH hammer and had the same problem, exactly as you have described. My mouth was held right, and my attitude was cordial, yet no success. And, exactly as you have said, at some random point it simply slipped right in. 

I decided I did not care for the aesthetic of the SBH on the Vaquero, but I did not dare disassemble and remove for fear of repeating the same infernal process. I have no explanation. 

[pleadthe2nd]

I use a 5/32 punch as a slave pin to get things lined up, then use the trigger pin to push the punch out from the opposite side, push slow, and things will stay lined up,works for me

[edk]

I see this thread is titled "Ruger service". tj3006, are you saying you're open for business?

[gnappi]

I'm pretty comfortable stripping the frame down and re-assembling it but last week I was modding a Bisley hammer for my Birdshead gripped BH, and checking the fit / clearance a couple of times it went together fast.

The last time I removed it all to polish the rear of the hammer, and just like the OP's issue the trigger pin absolutely would not go in. Finally I took it all apart again and found the pin would not go into the second hole at all with the frame bare! :-(

The pin was fine, I saw no burr on the frame so I re-assembled it, tapped the pin with a tiny brass jeweler's hammer (which I've never had to do before) and it went right in. Grrr :-)

[tj3006]

if the business is putting Blackhawks together,
It would be expensive. even at 15.00 an hour you would be spending some dough.

[Fowler]

Usually if it goes together on the first try slick and easy for me I am missing a spring or something like that. Never seems to work out the first try, of course if I stripped a Ruger more than every other year it would probably go a bit smoother...

[bigbore5]

Practice definitely has not made me perfect. And I have a hammer and trigger on the way! Well maybe this time.

[Ken O'Neill]

If you have trouble with a Ruger, you'd better never tackle a FA.