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Post by rjm52 on Dec 8, 2023 6:10:11 GMT -5
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Post by pacecars on Dec 8, 2023 8:19:45 GMT -5
What am I missing? I have been watching that one
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Post by bigbore5 on Dec 8, 2023 9:04:23 GMT -5
The grips don't look right
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Post by Lee Martin on Dec 8, 2023 9:10:47 GMT -5
Coke grips were dropped around 1965 (though some say they still shipped in 1966). So the gun could've come with factory cokes. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time"
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Post by rjm52 on Dec 8, 2023 9:52:39 GMT -5
Take a look at the barrel...
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Post by rjm52 on Dec 8, 2023 10:00:42 GMT -5
That is a 1964 first year of production gun and a very early serial number..
It is wearing the correct Coke stocks..
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Post by rjm52 on Dec 8, 2023 10:03:25 GMT -5
Appears to be unfired except for the three rings at 12, 4 and 8 o'clock on the cylinder face and the barrel shank/forcing cone looks clean..
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Post by pacecars on Dec 8, 2023 10:37:42 GMT -5
Take a look at the barrel... That is a weird ampersand
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Post by pacecars on Dec 8, 2023 10:41:41 GMT -5
Take a look at the barrel... That is a weird ampersand Never mind. I see that is the “lazy” ampersand and is correct
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Post by kings6 on Dec 8, 2023 13:32:44 GMT -5
Check’s three out of four boxes with S prefix, lazy ampersand and come grips. All it needs is the 4” barrel to be a dream gun.
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Post by rjm52 on Dec 8, 2023 16:43:33 GMT -5
Look at the front sight, especially the view from the top...
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Post by bigbore5 on Dec 8, 2023 17:48:15 GMT -5
Looks like one piece with the barrel. The insert is garbage too.
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Post by rjm52 on Dec 8, 2023 18:59:11 GMT -5
...barrel has been replaced.
Before about 1969, the front sight was machined as one unit and had a tenion that fit into a mortise machined into the end of the barrel rib. Two pins held it in place. The two pins were then polished flat but could be seen. If the sight was replaced due to damage or a different style blade, the replacement pins were domed.
First thing I noticed was there were no pins on the side of the barrel rib.
From about 1970 to 1980 the front sight base was machined as part of the barrel and a separate blade was pinned to the base with one pin and polished flat. If it was replaced it was with a domed pin.
Half way through 1980 some bean counter figured out that if they milled the whole barrel, sight base and blade as one unit it would save an additional 50 cents...apparently that idiot never considered the fact that to replace a damaged front sight blade would require either milling the front sight base or replacing the whole barrel. Not sure how long that lasted but they eventually went back to a pinned in front sight blade...
Bottom line is this gun is not as it left the factory in 1964.
Barrel has been replaced and the presentation case is a later model. One this early should have a left facing barrel with probably a velvet instead of frocked interior...
Cokes are correct and it appears that it has not been fired other that the three test rounds from the factory.
If the barrel was correct it would be a $2k+ gun...
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Post by pacecars on Dec 8, 2023 21:24:55 GMT -5
Which begs the question of why replace the barrel if only factory fired?
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Post by rjm52 on Dec 9, 2023 6:23:26 GMT -5
One would have to pull the grips off and look at the markings on the grip frame. My guess is that it was returned to the factory either because the original barrel got damaged or it was a different length, like 8 3/8", and someone wanted a 6... A S&W Letter will indicate how it left the factory and if it was returned for repair or modification.
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