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Post by brant on Mar 23, 2023 11:28:41 GMT -5
Does anyone have experience with the chiappa lever action rifles? I see a few for sale but not much talk about them.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Mar 23, 2023 15:08:05 GMT -5
I’ve wanted one since they first brought out their 92, very good quality, and high demand.
Trapr
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Post by mobjack on Mar 23, 2023 19:59:41 GMT -5
Yes, I have a 357 and am pleased with it. I think it is several steps up from the Rossi model 92s. Nice walnut along with case hardened frame and other parts. I would buy another again. It is a new gun purchased this year. I don't know anything about the rim fire guns. I am hankering for one of their octagon barrel models in 357 too.
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Post by Cholla on Mar 24, 2023 14:25:12 GMT -5
I've been agonizing over the purchase of a .44 Magnum lever rifle. Rossi (cheapest), Marlin (don't want MicroGroove rifling), Browning (pricey), Winchester (stupid tang safety and pricey) and Chiappa/Uberti (pricey but gorgeous).
I've had nothing but good experiences with Italian firearms so that's the way I'm leaning, but man they're twice as much as a Rossi!
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Post by needsmostuff on Mar 24, 2023 15:17:13 GMT -5
Are Chiappa case colors a true heat result or are they chemically applied?
I believe all the Italian revolver clones use chemical colors.
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Post by mobjack on Mar 26, 2023 15:03:40 GMT -5
As far as the Chiappa case hardening, I don't know. It's not as vibrant as Turnbull's, but it looks better that the Ruger "case hardening" that I have seen. I would say it looks like what is done to the Winchester Miroku guns. All things considered, I would have been happy with blue, but that wasn't an option.
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Post by brant on Apr 3, 2023 20:18:02 GMT -5
Thank you all for your comments
Brant
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Post by paul105 on May 4, 2023 21:36:00 GMT -5
Just picked one up. It's a Chiappa "Wildlands" M92, .44 Mag - 16.5" threaded Bbl, Skinner peep and picatinny optics rail, and fiber optic front sight. .  . I mounted a Leupold 2.5 x 8 pistol scope to do load development. . The suppressor adapter is on the way, so nothing to report there. . Just a quick range trip to sight in the scope and see if heavy for caliber .44 bullets (subsonic suppressor use) would stabilize at 25 yds. The 325gr and 355gr Beartooth Bullet LWNFPGCs have to be loaded in .44 special length cases to function in the M92. I previously chroned the 325s with 17.0gr of H110 in the short cases - 4" M329 ===> 980 fps 5 1/2" FA97 ==> 1,085 fps 6" M629 ===> 1,041 fps . Doesn't look like the 325/17.0 H110 will be subsonic in the rifle (TBD another day) . Only chrono results I have for the 355gr is with 18.8gr of H110 in a 7 1/2" RSRH ===> 1,167 fps - more velocity than I wanted. First off was to check for key holing with subsonic loads, so I started with 6.4gr of CFE Pistol (8.6 Max per Horn on line with this bullet in 44 mag cases). I choose CFE Pistol because I had some, it is small charge of low flash/report powder that should keep velocity under 1,100 fps (for suppressor use) loaded in .44 special cases to function in the M92. Cases were "smoked", extracted easily, and primers were normal (will work up slowly looking for better results). . The 270gr speer over 21.5gr H110 was previously chronographed in a 16" Rossi M92 right at 1,500 fps . Here's the target. Lower left - series of sighters with different loads. The other "groups" were shot with the same sight setting. .  . Just my first short outing -- work left to do. . Paul |
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Post by wiresguy on May 13, 2023 21:10:05 GMT -5
About two years ago I bought a new Taylor's Chiappa .357 SRC. It is accurate and this particular one has some very nice wood. It is one of my favorite rifles. I could do without the Saddle Ring, but it doesn't get in the way, so I just ignore it. The only downside to the gun is it isn't drilled and tapped for a receiver sight, but I've got a Vortex Venom mounted in place of the rear sight using a Turnbull mount. Lots of fun!
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Post by KRal on Jun 6, 2023 2:40:14 GMT -5
I have not shot a Chiappa, but I handled an 1886 at a gunshow a few months ago and kick myself in the rear every time think about it. I fondled it for about 10 minutes, then my son and I walked around talking about it. I made up my mind I was going back to buy it (I'm not a rifleman). I got there just in time to watch another guy handing over his money! I was very impressed with the fit, finish, and feel of it. It wasn't quit Miroku Winchester quality, but it was cheaper and original JMB design.
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Post by 45MAN on Jun 6, 2023 6:36:13 GMT -5
I have not shot a Chiappa, but I handled an 1886 at a gunshow a few months ago and kick myself in the rear every time think about it. I fondled it for about 10 minutes, then my son and I walked around talking about it. I made up my mind I was going back to buy it (I'm not a rifleman). I got there just in time to watch another guy handing over his money! I was very impressed with the fit, finish, and feel of it. It wasn't quit Miroku Winchester quality, but it was cheaper and original JMB design. KIM: YOU WERE LUCKY THAT DAY. IN A HANDGUNNER's HOME NEAT RIFLES GET NEGLECTED, I KNOW, I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE. |
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Post by bradshaw on Jun 6, 2023 8:24:06 GMT -5
As far as the Chiappa case hardening, I don't know. It's not as vibrant as Turnbull's, but it looks better that the Ruger "case hardening" that I have seen. I would say it looks like what is done to the Winchester Miroku guns. All things considered, I would have been happy with blue, but that wasn't an option. ***** When I considered buying a Vaquero, Ruger’s first fixed sight, center-fire single action, Bill Ruger, Jr., said, “Don’t buy it. The imitation carburizing is chemically applied, no heat involved. You’ll wear it off in no time and won’t like it. And you use adjustable sights.” The smaller, and so-called “New Vaquero” didn’t exist at this time. Heat treatment of chrome-molybdenum and stainless steels at Sturm, Ruger is through hardening, as opposed to surface hardening, a.k.a. case hardening. When making its copy of the Colt Peacemaker for Cowboy Action shooters, Ruger wasn’t about to mess with its heat treatment protocols. Experiment lead to a purely chemical discoloration, which lacks the visual color and depth of a heat hardening process. Ben “Bear Man” Kilham invited an engineer retired from Colt and myself for a day of jawboning guns and gun making. The engineer described an old timer at Colt, a master of case hardening, who did all the Single Action Army frames. Probably for job security, he wouldn’t teach anyone his technique. His was a one-man case carburizing shop in Colt’s. Peacemakers made after his retirement were not as beautiful. A tour of museums holding old Winchester, Stevens, Colt, Sharps, Smith & Wesson, Marlin, and other 19th Century manufacturers from Gun Alley reveal a variety of rich coloring in case hardening. Without which surface hardening, the old steels would rapidly wear in use. As alloy steels evolved, surface hardening became redundant, if not a detriment, to strength. Once a functional necessity, case hardening became decorative, and its name change to “color case hardening,” abbreviated as CCH. The distinction between case hardening and “color case hardening” attracts about zero curiosity among shooters. The old case hardening maestro at Colt may have been onto something. I’ve never heard the master of “color case hardening,” Doug Turnbull, explain his process. I suspect he dug deep to develop a visually stunning process applicable to modern steels. David Bradshaw |
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Post by LeverGunner on Jun 7, 2023 22:47:45 GMT -5
A friend of mine has a Chiappa 86 and the right side cartridge guide was not installed correctly from the factory. It is a modified design from the original 86 style. His symptom was that he can't load the rifle unless the hammer is at rest. If it's cocked, or on half cock, the loading gate is bound. He called them and they were not so helpful. I think he finally got them to offer to repair it if he shipped it to them. But they gave him the runaround a while first. I didn't care for that.
He has a browning, miroku made 86, and he said it's much tighter made, but that the chiappa isn't overly sloppy, just that the browning is better.
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Post by rjm52 on Jun 10, 2023 5:55:49 GMT -5
Here in the NE it is hard to find any lever-action in gun stores to handle other than Henry...
Only Chiappa LA I've handled is their copy of the Marlin Mountie and was very underwhelmed....don't know anyone who owns one so don't know how they shoot...
Only Chippa I own is a .22/.410 Double Badger and it is an excellent gun...
Do wish they would make an 1892 in .41....
Bob
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