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Post by Thunderjet on Jan 8, 2023 11:38:38 GMT -5
I need to buy a good cannelure tool. My plan is to cut a new cannelure on a bunch of older style Hornady 500 grain .458 bullets (no longer made). Then I can seat these bullets deep enough inside the case to use in my BFR 45-70 and ensure the rounds fit inside the cylinder properly. Just looking for an accurate gong buster traveling 1000-1100 fps. I have about 20 boxes of these bullets on hand so might as well use them up instead of buying more.
By the way, what is the max COL for the BFR 45-70?
If you dont think this plan will work please tell me why.
Thanks
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 8, 2023 12:16:01 GMT -5
I need to buy a good cannelure tool. My plan is to cut a new cannelure on a bunch of older style Hornady 500 grain .458 bullets (no longer made). Then I can seat these bullets deep enough inside the case to use in my BFR 45-70 and ensure the rounds fit inside the cylinder properly. Just looking for an accurate gong buster traveling 1000-1100 fps. I have about 20 boxes of these bullets on hand so might as well use them up instead of buying more. By the way, what is the max COL for the BFR 45-70? If you dont think this plan will work please tell me why. Thanks ***** thunderjet.... since you have a BFR .45-70, along with Hornady 500’s, all you need is brass to determine COL. And holding 20 boxes of Hornady .458 500 grain (solids?)----1,000 bullets----you should be able sell them for loot to buy beaucoup lead bullets, which should give you more velocity for X-pressure. Hornady 500’s were made for the .458 Winchester Magnum, which performance a revolver can’t hope to duplicate. For hunting just about anything with a .45-70 revolver, a good lead flat nose or hollow point seems the cats meow. Hornady .458 500’s I shot----FMJ and Jacketed Round Nose----all had a crimp cannelure. The 500 FMJ has a thick, copper-clad steel jacket to sustain 2,000+ fps impacts. Were I forced to try these pills in the BFR .45-70, I’d probably start with RL-7 (Reloder 7), and IMR 4198. load too light and there might be extreme vertical stringing. David Bradshaw |
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Post by Thunderjet on Jan 8, 2023 13:27:53 GMT -5
The bullets are soft points. Stockpiled them for one of my double rifles, a 450 NE. They have a crimp cannelure, but I thought they might have to be seated deeper for chambering in the BFR. Seating them deeper would also avoid a larger air space.
Guess I am putting the cart before the horse. My 45-70 BFR is in transit waiting for it to be delivered to my dealer.
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Post by Thunderjet on Jan 9, 2023 14:47:25 GMT -5
Those 500 grain bullets are just too long. Decided to avoid them for the BFR. My guess is they would also require a much higher front sight and they might not spin fast enough to stabilize.
Found some Hornady 300 gr hollow points on sale so just ordered a batch of them to start with.
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Post by flyingzebra on Jan 10, 2023 0:05:10 GMT -5
Sell them
They're worth money to someone who can use them for exactly what you'd had them for in the first place
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Post by lar4570 on Jan 10, 2023 22:31:37 GMT -5
The long cylinder BFR's are 3.000" long.
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Post by blackhawk44 on Jan 11, 2023 3:54:51 GMT -5
Offer those bullets up on the accurate reloading forum. They have more big bore shooters than you could ever imagine. They will throw money at you like it was confetti.
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Jan 16, 2023 21:57:40 GMT -5
I've gad a .45-70 BFR since October. Mine really likes 405gr. hard cast from Cast Performance.
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Post by Thunderjet on Jan 16, 2023 23:52:18 GMT -5
I've gad a .45-70 BFR since October. Mine really likes 405gr. hard cast from Cast Performance. Sized at .458? |
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Jan 18, 2023 2:30:40 GMT -5
They say .458" on the box, but Grizzly's website says .459". They worked just fine for me.
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