Swift A-frame revolver bullets

[bcelliott]

Does anyone know when (or if) the A-frame revolver bullets will be made again? I'm needing 45 cal 300 grainers (but would also take the 265 or 325 grain), and everyone has been out of stock for quite some time.

[randominator]

I have been looking as well. They pop up occasionally on Gunbroker if you want to pay the price.

[45MAN]

HAVE YOU GUYS TRIED SWIFT DIRECT?

I HAVE SOME 265's AND 300's BUT I AM KEEPING THEM, ESPECIALLY WITH A ROSSI 454 R92 ON THE WAY.

[zeus]

May be a couple of years I’ve heard.

[x101airborne]

I "think" I got some when I bought my 454 Casull. If you dont hear from me in a couple days, PM me please and remind me to look.

[flyingzebra]

Nov 28, 2022 7:52:43 GMT -5 zeus said:

May be a couple of years I’ve heard.

Two years?

What's the hurry..?

[bcelliott]

Nov 28, 2022 7:36:19 GMT -5 45MAN said:

HAVE YOU GUYS TRIED SWIFT DIRECT?

I HAVE SOME 265's AND 300's BUT I AM KEEPING THEM, ESPECIALLY WITH A ROSSI 454 R92 ON THE WAY.

Swift doesn't have them either. These A-frames would be used in my Rossi 454 as well.

[45MAN]

WHEN SWIFT FIRST CAME OUT WITH THE 45 A-FRAMES I BOUGHT A BUNCH AND USED A FEW IN VERY HEAVY 45 COLT LOADS FOR USE IN A FA MODEL 83.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SWIFT WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THEM AND REDESIGNED THEM SO THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT FROM LATER PRODUCTION 45 A-FRAMES. I HAVE SOME OF THE LATER ONES ALSO. AM WONDERING IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE AND, IF THERE IS, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. BEEN THINKING OF USING THE OLDER/INTIAL BATCH A-FRAMES SO I AM WONDERING WHAT THE DIFFERNCE MAY BE. ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY INFO?

[45MAN]

ALSO, THERE IS A DEMAND FOR THESE BULLETS AND THEY DON'T MAKE THEM, WHY NOT?

[bcelliott]

I just talked with Bill, the owner of Swift. He said they have been hard hit over the last couple of years, just like many others, and they are in the process of getting caught up. His estimate of beginning production again on the revolver bullets is a year from now at least.

Troubling to me was what he said about the 45 cal bullets in particular: he said demand on those is low and sales were slow, so the 45s are not high on their priority list. He attributed this to the A-frames not opening well at sedate 45 Colt velocities, and not enough shooters loading faster 45 Colt or 454 Casull and wanting A-frames. Bill also said that the 41 cal bullets are slow-selling too.

I'm wondering if collectively we couldn't let him know that we value these bullets and will buy plenty if they produce them. They are expensive for sure, and I know most of use shoot cast bullets, but I've not found any better expanding bullets for higher-velocity revolver cartridges that really work well on game every time.

Swift phone number: [phone]

[cmillard]

I will say that the nosler bullets for .41 and .45 have been hard to find as well

[bcelliott]

If anyone has a few extra 45 cal A-frames (265, 300,or 325 grain) and would be willing to sell, I'm buying!

[bearskinner]

I’ve had many boxes on order for over a year. 🤞🤞

[zeus]

I think I still have a supply of the 280s in a 44 and a few 210 boxes for the 41 but I sent my 45s to Mark H for a hunt he was going on. The old Speer Deep curl/Gold dot 270 grainers for the 44 is also a good one to have around.

[flyingzebra]

Nov 28, 2022 13:03:53 GMT -5 bcelliott said:

Troubling to me was what he said about the 45 cal bullets in particular: he said demand on those is low and sales were slow, so the 45s are not high on their priority list. He attributed this to the A-frames not opening well at sedate 45 Colt velocities, and not enough shooters loading faster 45 Colt or 454 Casull and wanting A-frames.

So make a bullet that answers the calling