New Ruger Marlins - Will we see an M-1894 and 336 soon?

[maxcactus]

The new Ruger made Marlin 1895s seem to be really fine rifles! I have an older Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70, but I've always wanted to add .357 and .45 Colt M-1894s to the toy box. I suppose I need a .30-30 M-336 some day, too. Does anyone have any information or even educated guesses as to whether Ruger will be reintroducing the M-1894 and 336? Lever guns seem to really be enjoying a resurgence.... so there seems to be a business case for the smaller rifles.

[needsmostuff]

I'm sure it will happen but when??
I'm not holding my breath for it but buying what I can, when I can.
When the Marlin comes around, if it's a better rifle, I'll just do the swap-a-roo.
Till then a Henry or Rossi can be found every now and then.

[magnumwheelman]

Holding my breath for a 480

[x101airborne]

Im holding my breath for a 454 that I can afford.

[maxcactus]

I'd love to have a matched set of rifles in .22 LR, .327 Federal, .357 Mag, .45 Colt, .30-30 and .45-70. It would seem Ruger has some work to do at the Mayodan plant.

[bula]

While I have an 1894 44mag here..explain the differences in the 336 vs 1895 ? Chambering restrictions, strength and such ?

[maxcactus]

Nov 15, 2022 13:09:04 GMT -5 bula said:

While I have an 1894 44mag here..explain the differences in the 336 vs 1895 ? Chambering restrictions, strength and such ?

If I'm not mistaken, from Marlin's catalog offerings...
the Model 1895 was chambered for the big bore rifle cartridges - .45-70, .444 Marlin and the short-lived .475 Linebaugh
The Model 1894 was chambered for revolver caliber cartridges from .32 H&R Mag, .357 Mag, .44 Mag and .45 Colt and other WCF cartridges
The Model 336 was chambered in middle sized rifle cartridges e.g. .30-30 Winchester,.35 Remington
The Model 39 was chambered for .22 LR and .22 WMR.

The current Marlin (Ruger) website shows the 1894 and 336 as "No longer in production" so I'm praying they'll see the business sense to re-introduce them.

[bula]

Thank you. The 336 being the newest design ? How different ?

[nhithaca]

The 336 and the current 1895 are both built on the same basic frame. Both are limited to an OAL cartridge length of about 2.5-2.6" long. The 1895 guns are relieved to fit the fat 45-70 in a number of spots and the mag tube has a belly to allow the cartridge to turn the corner into the tube. Strength wise, it depends on the cartridge; the 45-70 has a much larger case head area which affects the loading on the bolt and the wall thickness @ the chamber/barrel shank threads is limited due to the size of the original 336 frame. The 450 Marlin was the factory solution to the lower powered 45-70 factory loads but you can use the same pressure loads in either chambering; you just have to hand load the 45-70. The 308 Marlin, the 307 Winchester, the 356 Winchester and the 375 Winchester all have/had factory loads that are higher in pressure than the 450 Marlin but they all have a smaller case head area.

The writer Brian Pierce used a 1895 Marlin in Africa on their tough buffalo loaded with I believe a semi custom loading by Garrett. The load was specifically designed for the 1895 Marlin. He shot a bull broadside and the bullet fully penetrated the animal and went on to kill another cow on the offside! Solid proof that the 45-70 has more than enough power to kill most anything on the planet, when the shot is placed right.

[bcelliott]

Waiting on 1894s in .327 Federal and .41 magnum.

[bula]

I don't have a 357Max of any kind here, but I would bet a dog pile on of orders would happen if a 357max  would come out. The 375 Win levergun cartridge too, would be nice. 

[nhithaca]

The problem with the 357 Max is that it does not fit in the 1894 frame (too long for the frame) and is really too short (in the factory loading) to fit and cycle in the 336 frame. I guess Ruger could re-engineer the 336 to cycle the 357 Max like Winchester did for the 44 Mag chambering in their 1894 but then again if you are going to be carrying around the 336 then you might as well use the 35 Rem chambering. Off hand I can't think of any repeating rifle that was chambered in the 357 Max but there probably are some custom guns that have been. I would guess that the semi custom Big Horn lever gun could be chambered in 357 Max as it's frame is sort of in between the 336 and 1894 guns in size.

[contender]

As to the OP,, I'd say that they are trying to fill as many orders as they can with the current offerings. I'm sure we'll see an expanded line within the next year or two. It has been a SUPER fast job they've done getting the Marlin line back up & going considering ALL the extensive work they had to do.
Be patient,, and I'm sure we'll see all kinds of good stuff from Ruger/Marlin!
Remember,, they can't fill ALL the demands all at once. Not enough employees, space & machines to do it all at once!

[tj3006]

I would love to see a 336 and a 94.
A 94 in 44 mag, and a 336 in 30/30 and or 35 Remington...tj

[bisleyfan41]

Will we see them? Yes
Will it be soon? Nope