blazinbill
.240 Incinerator
Long time shooter, but relatively new to singe actions.
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Post by blazinbill on Oct 4, 2022 8:19:51 GMT -5
Had a number of major house expenses this year, so next year (hopefully back in stock by then, in-stock notification set at KYGunCo) I plan to purchase a new Ruger Bisley Hunter 44 Mag. Want to top her with a silver Burris 2X for its wide FOV, and since I’m a trigger snob I plan to buy some Wolff springs, a Power Custom jig, and honing stones and perform my own trigger job. Also planning on the cheap Uncle Mike’s bandolier holster. Purpose will be banging steel in my backyard out to 150+ yards, and, when retirement comes in 7 years, hunting. This revolver fills a number of voids for me, specifically I:
a) always wanted a scoped longer barrel revolver to hunt with.
b) always wanted to own a Bisley grip because it looks a lot like the Herrett Detective Special grip I so dearly love on my S&W 44 Mag revolvers.
c) tinkered with hammer/sear engagement, but never done a for real trigger job and I enjoy learning. I watched a well done YouTube video by Wyoming Gun Company on performing a Ruger SA trigger job and it looked real easy, pretty sure I’m skilled enough to operate! Plus this seems like an ideal gun to cut my teeth on because the worse that could happen is I ruin the $30 trigger, or am I wrong? Hoping for a crisp & clean 2-3 lb trigger.
d) love SA revolvers but only own one, and that’s a sin! I already own a 6” FA83, but I want to keep in unscoped, and also looking for a cheaper revolver that I don’t mind getting wet or dirty. Already own a ton of 44 Mag reloading components too.
I’m well versed on rifle scopes, and working on guns, but never scoped a handgun before and also never honed a hammer/sear engagement, so looking to gather advice ahead of time. Also, does this revolver come with Ruger scope rings, and are those rings any good? Appreciate any advice, including the obligatory “don’t get that revolver, get this one instead”.
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Post by 45MAN on Oct 4, 2022 8:27:34 GMT -5
BASED UPON A VERY LIMITED EXPERIENCE WITH RUGER REVOLVER RINGS, I DO NOT TRUST THEM, SO FOR MY 45 COLT BISLEY HUNTER I USE WARNE VERTICAL SPLIT RINGS.
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Post by squigz on Oct 4, 2022 8:39:02 GMT -5
I got in on one of the new Bisley 45 colts a few years back and it's by far one of my favorite handguns. I put a Weaver 2x on mine and it's perfect. The gun holds strong out to 100 yards.
I have not had any issues with the Ruger rings, I might not be well versed enough to say any different though.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 4, 2022 10:10:12 GMT -5
The first thing is to measure and correct the cylinder throats. Take a component jacketed bullet and see if it will pass through the cylinder throats.
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Post by Encore64 on Oct 4, 2022 10:22:57 GMT -5
I've used Ruger Rings since 1993 and never had an issue with them.
My preference for Weaver Style is Warne Vertically Split.
I do recommend paying close attention when tightening the Ruger Rings down. It's best to disassemble a ring and see how it's made before tightening them down.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Oct 4, 2022 10:37:21 GMT -5
My suggestion would be go with the Burris 2-7x, when you get to 100+ yards most 2x scopes lose the ability to distinguish and sort things out well. Being able to work up to 4x when the range stretches out is nice, but having the ability to use a lower setting when the range is less than 75-80 is where 2x really shines over higher magnification.
I’d also go to GunsAmerica site and search for Ruger Single action trigger job or clean up, it’s a good article on just what and where to clean up the trigger components without actually risking damage to the vital ones.
The Ruger rings are strong and hold well, they are simply very rough and can damage the scope tube so lapping them to remove high spots and give good flat mounting surfaces helps tremendously.
Lastly, shoot the gun before measuring or chasing inconsequential increments, my SBHH is completely stock and has delivered 2”-3” groups at 100, with both factory and reloaded ammo.
Trapr
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Post by potatojudge on Oct 4, 2022 12:28:33 GMT -5
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jeffh
.375 Atomic
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Post by jeffh on Oct 4, 2022 15:01:10 GMT -5
Take a look at this before messing with the trigger. Some solid insight from a VERY knowledgeable source. What Mr.Bradshaw provides here is golden and I have achieved exceptional, SAFE triggers on Ruger NM Blackhawks following this line of logic. singleactions.proboards.com/thread/11650/new-model-ruger-trigger-bradshawThe only issue I've ever had with Ruger rings is that, once in a while I'd get a set with TEETH. Five minutes with a fine, round file saves years of annoyance looking at a scope that looks like a beaver mistook it for a tree. |
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blazinbill
.240 Incinerator
Long time shooter, but relatively new to singe actions.
Posts: 34
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Post by blazinbill on Oct 4, 2022 15:29:36 GMT -5
My suggestion would be go with the Burris 2-7x, when you get to 100+ yards most 2x scopes lose the ability to distinguish and sort things out well. Being able to work up to 4x when the range stretches out is nice, but having the ability to use a lower setting when the range is less than 75-80 is where 2x really shines over higher magnification. I’d also go to GunsAmerica site and search for Ruger Single action trigger job or clean up, it’s a good article on just what and where to clean up the trigger components without actually risking damage to the vital ones. The Ruger rings are strong and hold well, they are simply very rough and can damage the scope tube so lapping them to remove high spots and give good flat mounting surfaces helps tremendously. Lastly, shoot the gun before measuring or chasing inconsequential increments, my SBHH is completely stock and has delivered 2”-3” groups at 100, with both factory and reloaded ammo. Trapr Trapr, Thanks for the detailed response, I will definitely take your suggestions. The GunsAmerica trigger job link for everyone's reference: www.gunsamerica.com/digest/diy-slick-ruger-single-action/ |
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blazinbill
.240 Incinerator
Long time shooter, but relatively new to singe actions.
Posts: 34
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Post by blazinbill on Oct 4, 2022 15:30:08 GMT -5
Take a look at this before messing with the trigger. Some solid insight from a VERY knowledgeable source. What Mr.Bradshaw provides here is golden and I have achieved exceptional, SAFE triggers on Ruger NM Blackhawks following this line of logic. singleactions.proboards.com/thread/11650/new-model-ruger-trigger-bradshawThe only issue I've ever had with Ruger rings is that, once in a while I'd get a set with TEETH. Five minutes with a fine, round file saves years of annoyance looking at a scope that looks like a beaver mistook it for a tree. Thank you! I appreciate all the trigger knowledge being shared. |
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Post by silcott on Oct 4, 2022 16:18:00 GMT -5
I ream and lap all my scope rings while bolted on the gun. With that said, I have a Ruger Bisley Hunter 45 Colt that wears a Weaver 2x in the factory Ruger rings, and a Ultra dot on a Waren rail. I can switch back and forth without having to adjust either one.
Justin
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Post by drycreek on Oct 4, 2022 16:28:46 GMT -5
I ream and lap all my scope rings while bolted on the gun. With that said, I have a Ruger Bisley Hunter 45 Colt that wears a Weaver 2x in the factory Ruger rings, and a Ultra dot on a Waren rail. I can switch back and forth without having to adjust either one. Justin Would you mind saying what you use to lap the rings and the process. I think the rings on my Hunter might benefit. Thanks ! |
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Post by jessb57 on Oct 4, 2022 16:46:48 GMT -5
My wife has a Weav-A-Tinny rail on her super blackhawk hunter in 45 colt. Is more secure than the Ruger rings. It also gives you more flexibility for moving the scope forward or backward.
It also opens up more choices for scope rings. I have the same set up on my .480 super redhawk with a Leuopold 2.5x8 scope and it works very well. By the way I would go with 1.5 to 2x on
the bottom end of magnification. The 2.5x is too much for the right below your feet tree stand shots. Just another option to look at.
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jfo4
.30 Stingray
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Post by jfo4 on Oct 4, 2022 17:14:23 GMT -5
Has anyone tried the Burris Ruger Red Dot mount on a Hunter?
Bowen just finished slicking up mine and shortening the barrel.
Hoping for a red dot sight combo that isn't excessively heavy/bulky.
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Post by silcott on Oct 4, 2022 19:16:37 GMT -5
I ream and lap all my scope rings while bolted on the gun. With that said, I have a Ruger Bisley Hunter 45 Colt that wears a Weaver 2x in the factory Ruger rings, and a Ultra dot on a Waren rail. I can switch back and forth without having to adjust either one. Justin Would you mind saying what you use to lap the rings and the process. I think the rings on my Hunter might benefit. Thanks ! My tools are all home made. Perks of being a tool maker. You can purchase everything from Midway. I believe you can get the lapping bar and the lapping compound in a kit. |
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