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Post by rjm52 on Sept 1, 2022 10:44:23 GMT -5
Last week while in Connecticut a friend and I had an hour to kill so we stopped by Standard Mfg. It is an amazing showroom to say the least.
They had two of their SAAs on display for handling...a 4.75" and a 5.5"...beautifully made guns.
Asked one of the staff if there were any plans to make other calibers or models and he said that the way they build them they can't keep up with demand...so no, no other calibers will be offered nor anything like a Flat Top Target...which is a shame...
So what there is, is what there will be for the foreseeable future...
Bob
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Post by boxhead on Sept 2, 2022 0:32:07 GMT -5
I am fond of mine.  |
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Post by CraigC on Sept 2, 2022 0:44:03 GMT -5
That's a bummer because if they had more variety, I'd have more of them. I'd like to see Bisley's, Flat-tops, .32-20's, .38-40's, .44Spl's, .44-40's, etc.. There's only so many .45 SAA's I need. I've got ten already. USFA .44, Standard .45 and Colt .38WCF:  |
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cubrock
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Post by cubrock on Sept 2, 2022 7:57:03 GMT -5
That's a bummer because if they had more variety, I'd have more of them. I'd like to see Bisley's, Flat-tops, .32-20's, .38-40's, .44Spl's, .44-40's, etc.. There's only so many .45 SAA's I need. I've got ten already. USFA .44, Standard .45 and Colt .38WCF: Same here. I am .45 Colt heavy in the single action department. I would love a .44 Special Standard. I would love a Flat Top Target (in whatever caliber, but .44 Special would be the bees knees). I would love a .32-20. Hopefully they will bring out more offerings in the future. |
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Post by CraigC on Sept 2, 2022 10:02:09 GMT -5
Agreed!
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Post by oddshooter on Sept 2, 2022 11:50:29 GMT -5
I'm in for a 32-20.  |
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Post by wpeel on Sept 2, 2022 12:35:48 GMT -5
Joe Perkins of Classic Single Actions has a somewhat different opinion of them. I copied and pasted this from his website:
Standard Manufacturing Making an effort to produce a quality single action revolver. The quality of fit and finish very nice. The frames are charcoal case hardened and have great color. The bluing is deep and dark. They use a 1st generation Colt style firing pin and hand. All screws are qualified, pointing in the same direction, even the grip screw. They are all fire blued along with the base pin, trigger and the ejector. As far as size comparison they are so close to a 3rd Gen Colt it doesn’t matter. We are talking a couple of thousandths of an inch. Like all single action revolvers that roll off the assembly line, they have heavy and rough actions. With quality action work done, they are much different to shoot.
Some have had quality control issues. The hands are not hardened (Colts are) and will cause timing issues with extended or hard use. Cylinders over-rotating due to overly tight fitted bolts. Hammers that bind in the frame because the hammers are too wide for the frame slot. Some have even been found with Italian (Uberti) hands in them, no kidding. Three revolvers I received in a five gun order had Uberti hands in them. Standard promptly sent me new hands without comment. If you want to know if yours has an Italian hand in it, send me an email and I will show you what they look like. All revolvers that were sold by me have the correct parts in them and function perfectly.
Final Notes: I stopped selling these revolvers because it has cost me too much time and effort to repair them or send them back for repair. They need to be PERFECT for this kind of money. Qualified screws will make you nuts as they go more out of time every time you touch them. In my experience of selling them for more than a year, about 10% had mechanical issues. I simply won’t let new a revolver go to a customer with functional problems.
(I corrected a couple of typos...other than that, it's verbatim)
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Post by owen67 on Sept 6, 2022 10:15:24 GMT -5
I said earlier I didn’t know these existed. I was wrong and had forgotten about them. I remember reading the above copied and pasted blurb on that gentleman’s website. I wonder how long ago he had those issues, and if they are ongoing? Better/worse now? I have to say that my ears perked up just because he does custom tuning and sells a lot of singleactions. Unfortunate news and hope it’s been 100% addressed by the company.
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Post by rexster on Sept 8, 2022 21:14:05 GMT -5
It is interesting, to say the least, to read Joe Perkins’ writing on this subject. I recently acquired a pre-owned, nickeled Standard Mfg sixgun. Hopefully, the big parts are durable, as small parts can be replaced, and if necessary, fitted by a talented ‘smith. One thing about a nickeled sixgun is that I will not be shooting it nearly as much as I would a blued sixgun. (Plus, I am “blessed” to have some USFA China Camps, with their, well, utilitarian finish, with which to do most of my single-action sixgunning. As I understand it, that bare-metal finish was intended to “patina” well, but, really, at least here in humid, green, coastal SE Texas, it just seems to rust…)
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Post by rjm52 on Sept 9, 2022 4:24:42 GMT -5
...one uses the word "patina" when selling something to get more money...
...one uses the word "rust" when buying something to knock down the price...
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 9, 2022 14:43:01 GMT -5
...one uses the word "patina" when selling something to get more money... ...one uses the word "rust" when buying something to knock down the price... ***** Never heard ‘patina’ used in the art world to describe oxidation on iron & steel. Patina indicates oxidation on copper and bronze (copper alloyed with tin). Perhaps 'patina' has been used to describe the graying or browning of iron & steel by time & environment, as well as chemically induced by the hand of man. Such aged oxidation helps protect steel against immediate rust. When selling a ‘olden’ new gun, reckon sales folk don’t want to call it the "Rust Model.” The guns shown here are beautiful. I’d like to hear types of bluing used, as well as mechanical detail. Is it safe to suspect frames of Colt clones are not heat treated, this especially conducive to the beautiful coloring of case carburizing? Not looking for state secrets, just what sort of heat is applied, and whether such temperatures are used on Ruger’s heat treated 4140 chromoly frames to create ‘case coloring.'. David Bradshaw |
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Post by Lee Martin on Sept 9, 2022 15:28:05 GMT -5
David, Check out this video on how Uberti single-actions are made: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYOJa8ZNxmE&t=173sThey're not through hardened. At the 2:20 mark, you'll see they dip the frame in a salt bath, followed by water quenching. So they're surfaced hardened. Not sure if Standard Manufacturing does the same, but this illustrates how they're done in Italy. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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