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Post by bigbore5 on Jan 10, 2022 13:08:07 GMT -5
MRI is offering the short frame bfr in 357 max through the custom shop. My short frames have 1.85" long cylinders. These have recessed cylinders. The min oal for a maximum is 1.940". Doesn't work out.
However the 357 Dan Wesson seems perfect for the cylinder length and the bfrs thick cylinder walls easily take beyond 454 pressure. With the extra powder capacity and higher pressures this should be capable of surpassing the maximum. Thoughts? Especially from Mr. Taffin and Whitworth.
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Post by Lee Martin on Jan 10, 2022 13:23:43 GMT -5
I thought this was a typo until I checked their website. Sure enough, they have the Maximum listed under the short frame. Not sure how they're making that work. Perhaps they meant to put in under the long-frame option. They offer a .350 Legend on that. I for one wouldn't be interested in either. The .357 Maximum should reside in true Maximum length frame. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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Post by Lee Martin on Jan 10, 2022 13:27:13 GMT -5
Incidentally, you can squeeze a .357 Maximum into a standard frame if you mill the front of the window. Forrest Smith at El Dorado Arms built himself one back in the early 1980's. I acquired the gun years ago:  I don't like that practice or deep seating bullets to clear the cylinder. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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Post by seminolewind on Jan 10, 2022 13:42:58 GMT -5
I thought this was a typo until I checked their website. Sure enough, they have the Maximum listed under the short frame. Not sure how they're making that work. Perhaps they meant to put in under the long-frame option." I've seen a write up of one BFR 357 Maximum from the custom shop and it was on the long-frame. I'm not interested in that at all. |
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Post by bigbore5 on Jan 10, 2022 15:31:01 GMT -5
But it'll be cool as a short frame Dan Wesson +p+. Called and left Brett a message but haven't heard from him yet.
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Post by bigbore5 on Jan 11, 2022 9:53:54 GMT -5
Heard back from Magnum Research. Long cylinder only. But I'm still pushing for the 360 Dan Wesson to be added.
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Post by contender on Jan 11, 2022 10:12:57 GMT -5
Lee,, you just made me smile. I remember that gun! Nice to see where it went!
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Post by oddshooter on Jan 11, 2022 12:32:36 GMT -5
Sorry, guys, I'm lost. Senior moment?
So it is on a long frame BFR. Does that make it long enough for the Maximum's OAL?
And I really don't understand the DW connection. Can someone alley my confusion?
Why are folks showing no interest? I'm a Max fan and it looks like a new shooter that I thought I would never see built again.
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Post by Encore64 on Jan 11, 2022 12:34:30 GMT -5
Sorry, guys, I'm lost. Senior moment? So it is on a long frame BFR. Does that make it long enough for the Maximum's OAL? And I really don't understand the DW connection. Can someone alley my confusion? Why are folks showing no interest? I'm a Max fan and it looks like a new shooter that I thought I would never see built again. Prescut The long BFR is way too long for the 357 Max in my opinion. I have one in 45-70 and love it. No interest in a Maximum on the same frame. Would be a boat anchor ⚓ |
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Post by Encore64 on Jan 11, 2022 13:11:30 GMT -5
Heard back from Magnum Research. Long cylinder only. But I'm still pushing for the 360 Dan Wesson to be added. I'd definitely be interested in one of those. Been kicking around the idea of a 360 DW TC Contender Carbine too. |
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Post by potatojudge on Jan 11, 2022 13:11:48 GMT -5
Sorry, guys, I'm lost. Senior moment? So it is on a long frame BFR. Does that make it long enough for the Maximum's OAL? And I really don't understand the DW connection. Can someone alley my confusion? Why are folks showing no interest? I'm a Max fan and it looks like a new shooter that I thought I would never see built again. Prescut The 360 DW cartridge falls between the 357 Mag and Maximum case lengths and fits in a standard cylinder with excellent performance. The BFR stretch frame is huge- meant for the 45-70 and similar- and way overkill for the Max. The Ruger stretch frame and BFR stretch frame are very different. The Ruger was tailor made for the Max. |
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Post by magnumwheelman on Jan 11, 2022 13:12:40 GMT -5
not sure... are those still 5 shot revolvers ( are all BFR's 5 shots??? ) I'd do a 357 Max in the long frame, if they could do a 7 or 8 shot gun on the big BFR... I do have a stainless Dan Wesson 357 Max, that is double action, & has a 6 round cylinder... if they could cut some weight with an extra few chambers... I'd be in  |
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Post by seminolewind on Jan 11, 2022 13:18:55 GMT -5
[quote author=" oddshooter" source="/post/414163/thread" timestamp="1641922356" And I really don't understand the DW connection. Can someone alley my confusion? Prescut[/quote] The 360 Dan Wesson is a cartridge with a case length between 357 Mag and 357 Maximum; 1.275" mag/ 1.420" DW/ 1.60" maxi. The 360 DW cartridge MIGHT be made to work in a BFR short cylinder. |
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Post by Encore64 on Jan 11, 2022 13:25:03 GMT -5
[quote author=" oddshooter" source="/post/414163/thread" timestamp="1641922356" And I really don't understand the DW connection. Can someone alley my confusion? Prescut The 360 Dan Wesson is a cartridge with a case length between 357 Mag and 357 Maximum; 1.275" mag/ 1.420" DW/ 1.60" maxi. The 360 DW cartridge MIGHT be made to work in a BFR short cylinder.[/quote] If a 454 Casull, 475 Linebaugh, etc fits the 360 DW will be no issue. I'd even go with six shots. |
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Post by bigbore5 on Jan 12, 2022 3:38:34 GMT -5
Sorry, guys, I'm lost. Senior moment? So it is on a long frame BFR. Does that make it long enough for the Maximum's OAL? And I really don't understand the DW connection. Can someone alley my confusion? Why are folks showing no interest? I'm a Max fan and it looks like a new shooter that I thought I would never see built again. Prescut The long frame bfr was created for the 45-70. It's way longer than the maximums oal of 1.95" by a margin. The 360 Dan Wesson is right between the 357 maximum and magnum in length. Perfect for the short cylinder bfr. |
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