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Post by pacecars on Dec 13, 2021 8:00:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 8:06:27 GMT -5
I've used Frankford arsenal quick n eze for few years. No problems, cheaper cost. I don't use but a few times a month. I buy walnut hull lizard bedding at pet shop. Mix half with corncob media. Cleans well for me with 3 hour run time.
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Post by magman on Dec 13, 2021 8:33:11 GMT -5
I've used Ultrasonic, wet tumbling and regular dry media. Went back to corn cob media with the Thumler tumbler.
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Post by x101airborne on Dec 13, 2021 9:23:36 GMT -5
I would get into stainless pin tumbling if you arent already set up for dry tumbling.
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Post by contender on Dec 13, 2021 10:14:02 GMT -5
Lots of options,, and just about as many opinions as well.
I currently own and use (3) Thumblers Tumblers.
I keep one for dry media,, using walnut shell. That's often used to start some really bad brass. But for most of my stuff,, I now use a wet method. I use water, Lemishine, and stainless pins.
To recover the pins,, AND make my brass come out nice,, I do the following;
After tumbling,, I pour off the dirty water into a tub that I can later gently pour out to catch any errant pins that slip by.
Next,, I add clean water,, and swish around the rest of the dirty water & pins & such,, and again, pour off the water.
Using a Dillon media separator, I fill the bub with enough water to allow me to roll the brass holder in about 1"-2" of water as it rotates. That allows the pins to fall into the bottom of the tub, in water. Once I do that,, knowing there may still be some residue,, I swap it over into my second Dillon tub of very clean water,, and rotate again for a few more minutes.
Shake off the excess water,, & pour the now cleaned & pin removed brass into a food dehydrator, to get the warming drying treatment.
While it seems a little laborious,, it's actually easy & quick,, as I keep jugs of clean water handy. And once I get a few tubs of brass done, & my pin supply is low,, I pour off the water,, rinse the pins,, and recover them,, to be used again. (I have about 10 lbs of pins.)
Thumbler Tumblers are not the cheapest,,, but they are top quality.
And using this method, I can take dull brown/gray almost black looking brass & make it shine.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Dec 13, 2021 10:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by foxtrapper on Dec 13, 2021 11:06:36 GMT -5
I see the wet technique and my question is why? I have a Dillon vibratory tumbler along with a Dillon squirrel cage separator . Can imagine it being simpler. I dump my cases and go right to the bench. Dealing with wet cases and pins just adds more steps. There that my humble opinion! Lol
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Post by magnumwheelman on Dec 13, 2021 11:52:38 GMT -5
FIL dry tumbled his cases... & that is how I started... but if you've ever seen 1940's or 50's ammo that the brass is so dark it's nearly black, turn out to look like new unfired brass... that's why I switched... if you're just buying new cases, & dry tumbling them each time they are loaded, or if you don't care enough to want shiney & perfectly clean cases, you're probably fine dry tumbling... it's a little more work to get cases you can't tell from new... worth it to me, I like my cases shiney... YMMV BTW... I like wet tumbling a lot for Black Powder cartridge cases, but if they are ugly, I usually run them through twice, & change the water so I can achieve shiney, new looking black powder cases  for people looking for once fired brass at the gun shows, they seek me out, because I wet tumble, & sort by headstamp... |
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Post by leadhound on Dec 13, 2021 12:56:03 GMT -5
I see the wet technique and my question is why? I have a Dillon vibratory tumbler along with a Dillon squirrel cage separator . Can imagine it being simpler. I dump my cases and go right to the bench. Dealing with wet cases and pins just adds more steps. There that my humble opinion! Lol Depends on how clean you want to get them, I used a Frankford Arsenal vibratory with corn cob media for years, and always kept a finish nail on the bench to poke out the bits that were always stuck in the flash hole. Switched to wet tumble with a Thumlers Tumbler because I wanted sparkling brass and clean primer pockets, just something I wanted, everybody has there itch I guess. Have seen some guys tumble with primer in, primer out, and some that didn’t tumble at all? Like a lot of the things we do, quirks and what not, I never really cared what route one takes, scenic or highway as long as they get to the destination safely. |
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Post by dougader on Dec 13, 2021 13:30:58 GMT -5
Since I don't compete anymore, my batches of brass are a lot smaller. I looked into the stainless pins but stopped with the citric acid (CA). I just put hot tap water into a 1/2 gallon juice bottle (a tough one, like Ocean Spray cran-apple or similar) and a heaping teaspoon of CA and mix thoroughly. Then I drop the deprimed brass in and wait.... about 2-5 minutes. Then I pour off the CA water to use again later, and rinse the brass with clean, hot tap water a couple times. Then I towel dry and put the brass on a dedicated cookie sheet that is covered with aluminum foil and set it in the sun for about 10 minutes, or the oven at the lowest setting, 170°F, and the brass is hot and dry by then. Using CA cleans and etches the brass, making resizing sticky. So, I then tumble the cases in treated corncob media for about 15 minutes. Separate and put into plastic baggies. Done! The brass is much cleaner, much faster... and without all the extras like pins, discs, etc. I tried tumbling my brass all day and overnight once to see if I could get the W296/H110 staining off. No go. But the CA takes it of in a couple minutes. BTW, contender and others, I completely agree on the Thumler's Tumblers. They last for decades. I wore one out in about 25 years! |
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Post by rkrcpa on Dec 13, 2021 13:59:38 GMT -5
I use crushed walnut shell media in an RCBS vibratory case cleaner. I purchased it new, the manufacture date of the unit is April 17, 1987. It still works like a champ so I see no need to change.
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Post by nicholst55 on Dec 13, 2021 14:04:59 GMT -5
Shiny, new-looking brass doesn't shoot any better than brass that has obviously been used before and dry tumbled. That's a fact - it doesn't shoot better groups, or make the gun function any better. All it does is look pretty. If you're a victim of 'shiny kit syndrome,' then by all means wet tumble in stainless steel pins. For just run-of-the-mill reloading, either method is fine.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Dec 13, 2021 15:30:14 GMT -5
while in theory, I agree... but "I" have noticed easier case extraction with wet tumbled & shiney cases, verses dry media tumbling in several ( but not all ) instances... YMMV
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Post by parallaxbill on Dec 13, 2021 17:31:04 GMT -5
I've used Frankford arsenal quick n eze for few years. No problems, cheaper cost. I don't use but a few times a month. I buy walnut hull lizard bedding at pet shop. Mix half with corncob media. Cleans well for me with 3 hour run time. Same here but I just use corn cob. Cheap but it works fine. |
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Post by cr390gt on Dec 13, 2021 18:18:35 GMT -5
Wet tumbling is the way to go I’ve switched from dawn and lemishine to brass juice found that lemishine makes the brass so clean I had to lube pistol brass brass juice leaves a coating makes it easier to size don’t know much about that one but the frankford and thumblers model b works great have both
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