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Post by tdbarton on Oct 25, 2021 12:41:05 GMT -5
Looks like Springfield Armory is rolling out a Hi-Power - the SA35. If it’s anything like the 1911s they’ve been doing lately, it should be pretty high quality. MSRP of $699, so I’d imagine it’ll hit shelves a little cheaper. If I ran across one, I’d be pretty tempted to get it. Made is the USA and they ditched the magazine disconnect.
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Post by ezekiel38 on Oct 25, 2021 13:13:17 GMT -5
I had a coupla HiPowers back in the 70s when I was working dope. That trigger disconnect was a pain to obtaining a decent trigger. Hopefully they will be a one piece barrel. Accuracy on mine were so-so, until I learned about 1 piece BarSto barrels. Took a 4" gun down to a 1 inch gun. Might have to get one just for old times sake.
Massad Ayoob wrote about the pitfalls, variables and high lights of the Hi Power, might be worth looking up and rereading.
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Post by bullseye on Oct 25, 2021 13:24:26 GMT -5
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Post by Encore64 on Oct 25, 2021 13:32:06 GMT -5
This will be one to watch for. Looks Great!!!
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Post by parallaxbill on Oct 25, 2021 13:32:46 GMT -5
When I watched the YouTube TFB review on it I went and got my old 80's Israeli HP out and petted it a bit. I shot my first HP back in the late 70's and wanted one ever since. AIM had them a few years ago at a good price so I finally indulged myself and got one. Mine was a nice blued MKIII example with no military markings at all. Most were blackened. I had previously purchased an Argentine military HP long ago on my C&R license only to find out that the BATF decided later that these were not C&R eligible, so I sent mine back. I may pick up one of these nice new Springfields once the retail prices stabilize. The old Israeli.  |
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Post by Yetiman on Oct 25, 2021 18:20:23 GMT -5
I suspect these will go a bit higher than the msrp.
I have a mkIII Practical that I sent to Novaks for a build back in 1994 that I like a lot. Might even consider one of these.
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 25, 2021 18:41:04 GMT -5
I had a coupla HiPowers back in the 70s when I was working dope. That trigger disconnect was a pain to obtaining a decent trigger. Hopefully they will be a one piece barrel. Accuracy on mine were so-so, until I learned about 1 piece BarSto barrels. Took a 4" gun down to a 1 inch gun. Might have to get one just for old times sake. Massad Ayoob wrote about the pitfalls, variables and high lights of the Hi Power, might be worth looking up and rereading. ***** What were your problems with 2-piece (monoblock) barrel? P-35’s I’ve owned and other I’ve shot range widely in accuracy. When Bill Ruger set about making a 9mm, he gathered up all manner of 9mm pistols for evaluation. I happened to come to dinner one night with my old Browning High Power. Next day I put it against his assortment of nines; blew ‘em away on the 6-inch 50 yard plates. The next High Power might not share that accuracy at all. (Bill Ruger would not pursue the single action only concept.) Feeding, of course, was all about hardball ammo, same as for other ams of the time: Luger, 1911, P-38, etc. The Browning Pistole 1935 and the Walher Pistole 1938 utterly revived the 9x19mm Luger cartridge. John Browning’s Mona Lisa masterpiece pistol is his 1911 .45 ACP, which continues to haunt auto pistol development and, in the words of Ben Bear Man Kilham, will haunt auto pistol development for as long as it works on the self-contained cartridge. The High Power is an ergonomic marvel. Why wouldn’t Springfield Armory, Inc., lengthen the anachronistic P-35 tang to prevent hammer bite? The real issue comes down to feeding. A contemporary P-35 must be configured to feed all nose profiles. After all, it has to go against reliability established by SIG/Sauer and Glock. David Bradshaw |
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Post by Encore64 on Oct 25, 2021 18:56:34 GMT -5
I've got tremendous faith in any design from John Browning. Same can be said for Springfield's ability to build great examples of these guns.
Think they'll be plenty of these sold. While I love the XDMs, any competition of the Glocks face an uphill battle.
I believe this will be a good fit for Springfield...
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Post by weiler on Oct 25, 2021 19:04:02 GMT -5
David, I have basically no experience with the Hi Power but based on what Ive read over the years and thru enduring the stock 1911 tang thought the same thing.
Springfields take:
“ The Springfield Armory SA-35’s hammer features improved geometry to prevent the risk of “hammer bite” to the web of the hand.”
All that being said, these seem pretty cool and if they shoot well my interest is piqued
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Post by tdbarton on Oct 25, 2021 19:26:45 GMT -5
I've got tremendous faith in any design from John Browning. Same can be said for Springfield's ability to build great examples of these guns. Think they'll be plenty of these sold. While I love the XDMs, any competition of the Glocks face an uphill battle. I believe this will be a good fit for Springfield... Well spoken. Fully agree. |
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 25, 2021 19:33:02 GMT -5
David, I have basically no experience with the Hi Power but based on what Ive read over the years and thru enduring the stock 1911 tang thought the same thing. Springfields take: “ The Springfield Armory SA-35’s hammer features improved geometry to prevent the risk of “hammer bite” to the web of the hand.” All that being said, these seem pretty cool and if they shoot well my interest is piqued ***** P-35 tang----too shortBelieve it was around 1970 Browning Arms dropped the original burr hammer, replacing it with a long spur. The spur hammer helps, but isn’t the right fix. P-35 magazine release----too longThe P-35’s radical double column magazine is matched by the pistol's skeleton frame & slide. Adding to volume-of-fire caper, the between world wars pistol features a long-button magazine release. This idea was picked up generations later by the practical pistol crowd. The exposed button severely compromises magazine security, requiring a special provision in the holster to protect the autoloader for becoming a glorified single shot when turd hits the fan. Few holsters I’ve used, from military to civilian, consider this detail. I wouldn’t trade John Moses Browning’s original mag button on his 1911 for any mag catch made since. David Bradshaw |
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Post by dougader on Oct 25, 2021 20:19:38 GMT -5
I still miss the Inglis Canadian made military P35 I sold to my brother. Will have to look into these beauties.
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Post by zeus on Oct 25, 2021 21:37:04 GMT -5
I still miss the Inglis Canadian made military P35 I sold to my brother. Will have to look into these beauties. Was that greenish colored one? If so, that is the first auto I ever fired as a child. |
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Post by dougader on Oct 25, 2021 21:56:04 GMT -5
I still miss the Inglis Canadian made military P35 I sold to my brother. Will have to look into these beauties. Was that greenish colored one? If so, that is the first auto I ever fired as a child. Yes. Greenish hue to it. Mine had fixed sights. The rear sight was part of the slide itself. |
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Post by maxcactus on Oct 26, 2021 4:47:05 GMT -5
I was elated to hear this news first thing this morning. Since Browning announced they were discontinuing the Hi-Power three+ years ago, I've been wondering "Why isn't some other company, preferably American, picking up this opportunity? We have more than 20 companies making 1911 clones, so why can't ONE company make a Hi-Power clone." This opportunity seemed especially obvious to me given the prices recent FN and Browning Hi-Powers have been selling for online. Nice ones routinely go for > $1000 and NIB (old stock) guns routinely sell for $1500. There were Turkish clones available 18 months ago for a reasonable $500, but.... they were Turkish and very limited in numbers. I have a MKIII now, but have wanted a couple more to customize. The only changes I'd like to see Springfield make are the options of stainless steel and a light rail on the front of the frame. Regardless, I'll pick up a couple of these as soon as I can.
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